Today is our Q&A episode!
We cover questions like:
1. Why aren’t I getting better on a GAPS diet?
2. Why does zinc make me feel crappy?
3. Why can’t I sleep?
4. Will ketones make me lose weight?
Tune in and get some insight on these issues!
Kendra Perry: Hello, hello. Hi, everyone. Welcome to another fantastic episode of HIGH on Energy TV. I am your host, Kendra Perry. As always, I'm going to teach you how to get more energy. Today is actually our live Q&A, which I will admit, it was supposed to be last Tuesday, but we've been changing up a lot of things in the schedule lately, and I totally gapped last week and covered a topic instead of covering your questions. Today, we're actually going to do our live Q&A. Typically, I do the live Q&A the last Tuesday of every month. If you guys are following me on Facebook Live, every Tuesday at 4PM, we do this as a live show. You guys can join me, you can ask me questions, you can hang out with me. If you're in the audience right now, make sure to say hi. I love to connect with you.
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One of those coaching calls is a video conference call, and we have a forum of pretty supportive ladies. Probably the coolest group of ladies I've ever witnessed. They are so supportive, they will love the shit out of you. Guys, if you're interested, I'll put the link at the top of this video, but basically you can go to my website or you can just go to go.kendraperry.net/energy. Guys, let's jump into the questions today. I had about five or six submitted. Then of course if any of you guys are on live with me right now and you want to ask me something, definitely go for it. The first question I got, I'm actually really excited to answer, because this is actually a question that I get quite often. The question is, I have been on a GAPS diet for two years now. It has helped control my bloating, and I'm not really getting better. I still have Eczema, I still have migraines, I often feel very achy. I was under the impression that the GAPS diet would heal me. Why isn't it working?
Okay. This is a really good question, and this is a big mistake that people make. I made it too when embarking on their health journey. Ultimately, when we feel crappy and we're starting to search around and look around, and try to figure out well, why do I feel so crappy? We usually start with diet. There's nothing wrong with that. Yes, we do need to eat a healthy wholefoods diet in order to heal, that is a basis. Excuse me. That is a basis of good health, but it won't take you all the way. Diet is just one small piece of what you need to be thinking about when you want to heal yourself. Yes, sometimes people switch their diets and they get better, but that doesn't happen to everyone. I would go so far to say that it doesn't happen to most people. The problem is, there are a lot of things that might be affecting your health. Yes, diet is important. I don't think you need a GAPS diet to heal. I think you can be on a more inclusive diet.
Yes, we want to get rid of the inflammatory foods, but the foods that we put in our mouth aren't the only thing that is affecting our body. We have to consider stress, we have to consider our emotional history. This is kind of the [woo-woo] stuff, but this is really important. If we have a history of trauma, if we have a monkey brain, we're constantly in our head with negative thought patterns, limiting beliefs, putting ourselves down, trashing ourselves, telling ourselves that we suck. Just being that mean girl. That is going to affect your emotions, and that can actually lead to a lot of negative symptoms. Now, there's the emotional piece. We also have to consider toxicity. I say this all the time, I'm a broken record, but we're getting exposed to millions of toxins on a regular basis. We are always getting exposed every time we drink water, every time we eat, every time we breathe air. That stuff is not clean. It's not 100% clean. Unfortunately, we do live in a world where that clean piece isn't really possible anymore. I know that sucks but that is something we have to consider.
Part of getting healthy is really cleaning up our environment as much as possible. To me, that should always start with water. You need to filter your tap and shower tower. Okay? Even if you're drinking wall water, and especially if you're living in any city of municipality, if you are drinking tap water, you are drinking chlorine. Chlorine is a disinfectant, it will kill off your gut fluoride. It will make you iodine deficient, it will fuck with your thyroid. It will affect you in so many ways, and then if you live in a place that has fluoride in your water, I mean that goes even one step further. On top of that, if you're drinking city/municipal water, you're drinking recycled water, it's going to be mineral poor water. Really hard to hydrate yourself with mineral poor water. On top of that, there's pesticides, there's herbicides, there's radiation, if you live in the [inaudible] where I live, you are getting exposed to high levels of radiation because it's naturally in our ground. Then there's the drug residue piece.
A lot of people take drugs these days, whether those are pharmaceuticals, whether those are street drugs, well they pee those drug residues back into the water, and that goes back into the municipal water system. Depending on where you live. It's like you have to consider the toxicity. You have to consider what you're cooking your food with. You have to consider what you're using for makeup, what you're putting on your skin, what you're cleaning your house with. You have to consider the air quality of your house. You also have to consider things like, am I getting exposed to toxic mold? That's another big thing I'm seeing these days. That's a piece of it as well. Then there's the mineral issues, and the fact that we do need a very deficient food supply. 50 years ago, 60 years ago, yeah, I'm sure dietary interventions would work like gang busters, and that would be all we need. But today, that's not possible. Unfortunately, even the past 20 years, the nutritional content of our food has gone down significantly.
I see this all the time, this is the most common situation that I see. I get women who are coming to me. They're like, "I eat so healthy. I'm on a GAPS diet, I'm on STE diet, I eat paleo, I am 100% organic, I'm growing my own food, why do I feel so crappy? I'm doing all the right things. It's just because diet isn't always enough. If you've been doing GAPS for two years and it's not working, then you got to dig deeper. You got to think of your emotional health. You got to assess your relationship to toxins and chemicals. You need to look at the relationships in your world. You need to look at your personal piece in your health experience. You need to think about your minerals. It sounds like you would be a great fit for the High On Energy membership. You need to get those things tested and see what's going on, because there can be so many things. There are so many things working against us, and I know it sucks, but it's the honest truth. Diet, unfortunately, isn't often enough. We got to dig deeper. We need some serious intervention.
I was the same as you. I ate strict paleo, 100% organic for about three years, and got very minimal results. Guys, if you are on with me on Facebook Live right now, and you can relate to that, let me know, give me a heart. Give me a thumbs up, give me a smiley face, or let me know in the comments that that sounds like something that you can relate to, because this is what I see a lot with a lot of the women I speak with, is that they're doing so many of the right things, and it's not working. It's not because they suck at it or they need to do it harder, they're not good enough at GAPS, or whatever it is. It just means that you need to dig deeper. You need to start looking at other things, because often times, and I see it all the time, diet is just not enough. Okay.
Guys, if you're on with me live right now, let me know you're here. Say hey. I know there's nine of you here. I see the number nine, and an eyeball. Which tells me that there are people on here, but you guys are shy. You're hiding out. Let me know. Alicia says, wouldn't the drugs and hormones that go back in the water be eliminated by the chemicals used to clean the water? I would say not necessarily. The chemicals they put in the water are very good at eliminating toxic organisms, so they're very good at making sure you don't get Giardia, or you don't get something like crazy like stomach infection that used to make people sick back in the medieval times. But they're not going to get rid of the other chemicals or hormones. Terry says, amen. [Meam] says, hello, or she says, hi. [Lynn's] here. Hey guys. How's it going? I got lots of my HIGH on Energy members. My faithful followers are on with me live right now.
Yeah. There's just a lot of things that you need to consider. I get this is probably the most common question that we get through our Facebook page, that I have to train my people to know how to answer because we get so much, like yeah, "Why isn't my diet working? I've been doing it for years, why isn't it enough?" Okay. Next question. Guys, if you're on with me live right now and you have a question for me, this is your chance because we only do this once a month. Next question that I had submitted was why do I feel terrible when I zinc? My practitioner told me I need zinc, but I am a slow oxidizer, and it always makes me feel crappy, or sorry, because I'm a slow oxidizer, but it always makes me feel so crappy. Yeah, and so that's actually really common, and I would want to know. Obviously, I don't have your hair mineral analysis results in front of me, but I want to know what your sodium is doing. Because zinc will lower sodium, and in a slow oxidizers, for those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, if this is your issue, when I run hair mineral analysis, basically based on the mineral patterns, you can assess if someone has a fast metabolic type versus a slow.
Slow metabolic types tend to have really low sodium potassium, and they have bio unavailable calcium magnesium. When you look at their minerals, sodium potassium look low, and calcium magnesium look high. Minerals all interact with each other. Either directly or indirectly, they all have an affect on each other. Zinc, one of its relationships is that it will lower sodium. Now, it's not a strong antagonistic relationship. What I mean by that is it doesn't strongly lower sodium, but it will lower sodium, and what we typically see with people who have slow metabolic types is their sodium is pretty bottomed out. It's below 10 or even below five. Sometimes I see sodium of two or one. I mean, that is super bottomed out and you do not want to take something that is going to lower that further. When we balance minerals, the most important minerals that we balance are calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, the macro minerals. The top four. The top four.
It's all about prioritizing, and you kind of got a triage things. Yes, zinc is important, yes, you might be zinc efficient, a lot of slow metabolic types are deficient in zinc, but if sodium is low, you have to focus on sodium first. You cannot be taking anything that will lower it, even if you're deficient in that. I hope that makes sense. This is a big reason why I don't recommend zinc for slow oxidizers, it's because usually their sodium is so low that you can't give them zinc. Yes, you can work with high zinc foods. Those are going to be things like red meat, pumpkin seeds, a lot of your protein meat containing foods are going to have good levels of zinc in them, but you really need to focus on that sodium. A lot of slow oxidizers will report the same thing. They take zinc and it makes them feel worse. If you are going to take zinc, it needs to be a pretty low dose. I would say no more than 15 milligrams, but I typically don't even implement it until somebody has stabilized their sodium levels. That's probably why that made you feel crappy.
Okay. Terry says, how fast do you typically see changes to improve blood pressure when you start [leveling] minerals and vitamins? I would say that varies quite significantly, Terry. That's just because everyone is different and it's really a question of why, what is going on with the blood pressure. I typically find blood pressure related to sodium potassium. Sometimes it can be pretty quick to switch. Once you start balancing that sodium potassium levels based on what you see with hair mineral analysis, but high blood pressure can also be due to metal toxicity. This is something I really commonly see, or even micro toxins like mold. Those things can take a little bit longer to fix, but really, we have to think about the fact that blood pressure or elevated blood pressure is a symptom, right? Symptoms are not the issue, they're just the result of something deeper that's going on. It really depends on what is driving a symptom, what is a driving the high or low blood pressure, what's throwing them out of balance, and how many things are affecting it. Because it's never just one thing.
I think we're always looking for that smoking gun. We always want to know. What is the one thing that is going to help improve the symptom, or get me better, or take me to the next level. But unfortunately, there's never just one thing, there's always a multitude of things. That can vary significantly. With blood pressure, you also want to be thinking about emotions, stress, response to stress and emotions, and that sort of thing.
Britney says, how does one get such cobalt on their HTMA? That's a great question. Cobalt is an interesting mineral. Cobalt sits in the middle of vitamin B12. One of the B vitamins is B12, and in the middle of B12 is cobalt. In order to break down, absorb and utilize vitamin B12, you need to have sufficient stomach acid levels. If you don't have good stomach acid, which is really typical if you've been exposed to copper, if you're in a slow metabolic state, very typical to have low stomach acid, I'd say that's a pretty chronic issue with a lot of people these days. It's really hard to come across someone who has good stomach acid these days. What happens is you'll mal absorb the B12 from supplements or from food, and that actually leads to the cobalt building up in the hair. Typically, when you see high cobalt, it could be due to the fact that your malabsorbing B12, now that's going to be typically, like I said, in people who have had copper issues, or are slow metabolizers, or people who have low stomach acid because they've been on proton pump inhibitors, or something that has suppressed their stomach acid like an H. Pylori infection, that can definitely affect it as well.
Typically when I see that, I know that a person is malabsorbing B12. The other reason why it could be high is because a person is dumping it and they're detoxing it. Any time you see high metals on HTMA, it means the person is eliminating it, the question is always why. I hope that answers that question.
Terry says, I take a calcium blocker and that helps, so would that point to minerals? I'm not sure. There's a lot of side effects to calcium channel blockers. I'm not super familiar with the medication, but yeah, I mean calcium blocker, I'm not super familiar with physiology of that drug, so I'm not 100% sure. But what I will tell you is everyone has mineral imbalances. I see hundreds of these tests. I even run these on healthy people and I still see things to work on. There's always going to be things to work on in your minerals. Mean says, getting my HTMA in a couple of weeks, I finally got my shit together and on Sunday, started following a metabolism reset diet, and I can't believe how tired I am. I feel like I could sleep all the time. Any time you make new changes to diet or lifestyle, or a supplement program, sometimes you feel worse before you feel better. It's not necessarily a bad thing, and it's something you should expect. It's called the healing crisis or the detox reaction.
Unfortunately, from what I've seen, it's not really possible for health to improve without feeling crappy temporarily, or without having flare ups. It's totally normal. It's what your body does when it is healing, when it is detoxing. You will have flare ups of your main symptoms. When your body is detoxing and letting things out of the system, they do tend to temporarily end up in the blood, and that feels crappy. You always tend to feel worse, and it will always happen as you move through healing and as you move through life, okay.
Okay, okay, so yeah. Sorry, Mean, I missed half your question there, so I'm going to get that answered. I take Oceans Alive, CBD oil, and drinks on magnesium. I'm doing just light stretching and sleeping in hours again. Will I ever feel normal again? Yes, you will. It sounded like you just started this on Sunday. Typically, when people start something new, they're going to notice negative symptoms within the first week or two. That's the most typical time to feel crappy. Don't be hard on yourself, it's normal. Just take extra time to rest, and you should get better, I promise. This is just the way it goes for most people. Lynn says, can you talk about iodine? You say you have to take co-factors with them, what does that mean? There's certain vitamins and minerals that iodine needs to work properly, and to be in the transporter system. Those co-factors are vitamin B2, B3, vitamin C, magnesium and selenium. I always, because there is a lot of fear mongering around iodine, if you do it improperly, it can make you worse. I'm very cautious with my use of iodine therapy. I always spend about a month building up the iodine transporter system with the co-factors. At that point, that's when I bring in iodine, and my approach is always to go low and to go slow.
I start with people on a very low dose, every couple days, maybe even once a week. We have them slowly, slowly build up because people can have negative reactions to iodine. You want to build up the co-factors because you don't want the iodine to get mal absorbed and end up causing issues in other tissues of the body. There are a lot of competing theories on that, and I know people do implement iodine therapy without the co factors, but personally, as an unlicensed practitioner, that's just not something I do. I always err on the side of safety. Iodine has to be taken very cautiously and definitely with an iodine literate practitioner.
Okay. Next question, I'm suffering from terrible insomnia. It's been going on for years, and can't figure it out. I eat organic paleo, I exercise, I go to yoga, I've been using the infrared sauna, I'm even working with a practitioner at your recommendation on my minerals, what am I not thinking of? Okay, unfortunately, sleep is a pretty complex process. There's a lot of things that could be going on, and it's great that you're working on your minerals. I think that's fantastic. Know that this does take time. Healing minerals is not a quick fix, and it doesn't happen in six months. It takes quite a bit of time to iron things out, especially if you have a lot of metals to detox and especially if you're really out of balance, if you're very slow, or very fast in terms of metabolism. It does take time to balance out, but things that come to mind, I'm thinking of hormones, I've been thinking of what life stage you were, I don't know if you're female or male, but certain life stages can cause more sleep issues due to hormone fluctuations. If you're post menopausal or premenopausal, fluctuations in estrogen and and progesterone can greatly increase sleep issues.
Stress can be a big part of this. I always want to know what are you doing in the couple hours before bed time. Because if you're stimulating yourself too much, this can be a big issue, so I do recommend orange blocker glasses. I have a pair, and I love them. They actually are slightly stylish other than the fact that they have orange lenses, and I typically wear them when I'm in front of my computer. I also wear them pretty much all night. I wear them when I drive. They just help reduce the white glare of the light which tells the body that the sun is rising, whereas the orange makes the light resemble more of a camp fire, which actually makes us sleepier. Typically what you can do, something that can help us sleep is you can take about .5 to one milligram of melatonin once it gets dark out. You don't want to go too heavy because depending on where you live, it might get dark pretty early. If you live in the northern hemisphere like I do, and it's getting dark at six, then you take a really low dose of melatonin at six. That can help sort of wind you down and then you take a higher dose before bed.
I'm a big fan of DaVinci Labs' liposomal melatonin because it actually gets into your brain. It gets absorbed way better. That can be really helpful, but some of the other things that I've been working on with clients a lot lately, and have greatly helped me think was number one is reducing EMS. Now, I'm still in the process of educating myself on those topic, but I personally am very sensitive to people's energy. I'm very sensitive to frequency. One of the biggest things that has helped my sleep recently, because I went through about a month this winter where I was not sleeping well, one of the best things that has helped me is reducing the EMS in my home. This can be more difficult for some, obviously, if you live in an apartment building in a city, you're getting exposed to a lot because you're getting exposed to everyone else's electricity and wifi, plus if there's cars driving by in the street, you're getting exposed to everyone's cellphone radiation. This can be a little trickier, depending on where you live, but definitely at a minimum, you do want to turn off your wifi router at night.
I actually flip the breaker in my house. I turn off all the plugs and lights in my house, except for in the kitchen so the fridge runs. I turn off my wifi, and make sure phone's in airplane mode. I find that can be very helpful. If you do live, if you are really sensitive to electromagnetic frequency, if you find you go to a cabin, you can go into nature, you go camping and you sleep like a boss, you might need to do something a little further to protect yourself. You can actually get netting. You get get mineral metal netting that goes over your bed kind of like a mosquito net that will actually fully protect you from EMS. Those are expensive, but if you have chronic health issues, if you're very sensitive then this could be the biggest factor in allowing you to sleep.
The other thing that I've been using a lot of, I just got turned on to this. It's actually been on my radar since I got into the health industry, so about seven years ago. I actually wanted to buy this app seven years ago, but I didn't have any money at the time, I was super broke. I just bought it a few weeks ago. It's called Heart Math, and it's very, very cool. I think it's played a huge role and not only in my response to sleep, to stress, sorry, not sleep, but it's also helped me sleep. Basically, it measures your heart rate variability. Heart rate variability is basically what happens in between beats. You got your heart beat rate and then you have this little thing that happens in between your heart beat. When you are frustrated and angry, and stressed out, your heart rate variability is very sharp. It's very erotic, it's very all over the place. Versus, when you are in a calm, relaxed, appreciative, and grateful state, your heart rate variability is very, very smooth.
It happens in this very smooth, beautiful wave. The app calls that. The app I have is called heart math inner balance. It's an app on my phone, and I have a little monitor that attaches to my ear. Measures my heart rate variability, and then I can look at my app and it gives me bio feedback. When I'm getting in to what they call coherence, which is that really beautiful state of smooth heart rhythm. The thing that gets you into it, it's different than just meditation. Meditation is just breathing, but heart math, or getting into what they call coherence, really involves being in a place of appreciation, love, compassion, and gratitude. When I'm there, I'm thinking about all of the things I'm grateful for, and often what I'll do is I'll do a bit of a body scan. I'll start with my toes, and think about I am so grateful for these toes. These toes keep me balanced, they keep me on my feet, they take me to where I go. Then I move up to my ankles and my legs, or my thighs, and be like, these thighs I have are so strong, they carry me up mountains. They let me ski down, I pound on them, they hold me up. I just think about all the things I'm grateful then, and I'll get the ding, and it will all go into that higher coherence state.
I've only been using it for three weeks. I do it for about five to 15 minutes a day, so I'll do one session in the morning, one before bed, and maybe one in the middle of the day, depending on what's going on. Very low commitment, very low time commitment, but the benefits has been pretty amazing. It has 100% changed my response to stress. I feel much more calm. I don't freak out like I do sometimes. It made an instant improvement in my sleep. Because I'm definitely one of those people like at night, I'm thinking about my to-do list, I'm thinking about all the things that need to get done. I always do that right before bed, and I'll do it for as long as it takes to get myself into that state, because once I get into that state, I feel calm and I fall asleep easily. Those are some things to look into. Heart math, hormones, EMS, look into stress, also continue to balance your minerals because it's not a quick fix, unfortunately. Definitely assess what you're doing in the two hours before bed. You should not be looking at screens. You should not be exercising. You should not be doing anything stimulating, and I definitely recommend those orange, sexy, light blocking glasses.
Lynn says, what does it mean if melatonin keeps you up? Potentially, I would think that it would be maybe low quality melatonin. I definitely recommend liposomal but it's definitely my go-to. It's way better absorbed. There's a lot of crappy melatonins out there. I would think about that. I would also think that maybe your melatonin is actually high. Some people do have elevated melatonin, and you would know that based on testing. If melatonin is high, and you take melatonin, then yeah, it might actually be counter productive.
Okay, next question. Will ketones help me lose weight? I would say that depends. I think the most important thing to keep in mind is exogenous ketones like beta, hydroxybutyrate, beta-hydroxybutyrate, I'm slurring that one, it is not a weight loss product. It can help you lose weight when used in conjunction with other things, but it's not a weight loss product. If you just take ketones, it's probably not going to help you lose weight. If you're wondering what ketones are, typically, the body is burning glucose for fuel, but when the body is in a state of low glucose or low restricted carbohydrate state, it will start using ketones, which typically come from fat. That's what happens when people are doing ketogenic diets, they're burning ketones because they're in ketosis. If you take exogenous ketones, it means that you will burn those ketones for fuel instead of glucose. It can be helpful for weight loss. It is an appetite suppressant but I would say, if you want to make ketones work for weight loss, I would probably be combining it with intermittent fasting and high intensity interval training. High intensity exercise that doesn't last very long.
From what I've seen, that tends to be what works. What that might look like is every day, you're doing maybe a 16 to 20-hour fasts, so that means that you eat dinner at six, and you don't eat again until 10 or 12 or something like that, and you take the ketones while you're fasting, and then in that eating window, so for say, from 12 to six, during that time when you're eating, you do a high intensity interval workout. That could be a tabata workout, that could be 30 seconds on, 30 seconds off where you, maybe you sprint for 30 seconds and then you walk for 30 seconds, and you repeat that, and you do that for about 15 to 20 minutes. Something like that. That tends to be the situation where I see that work best for weight loss. But I don't think ketones on their own will actually make you lose weight. I think they need to be used in conjunction with those other things.
The final question, so guys, if you're on with me live and you have other questions, go for it. Ask me the question and I'm going to answer this last one and I'll look to the comments. What are your thoughts on intermittent fasting? I actually love intermittent fasting, and I definitely changed my point of view on intermittent fasting. I used to think it was an awful situation. I think in some people, it can still be a recipe for disaster. There are certain people who should not be intermittent fasting. I would say people who are severely hyperglycemic or people who are underweight, or pregnancy, breastfeeding, these are times or things that would counter indicate intermittent fasting. But I actually love it, and I actually do it most days. For me, personally, it worked really well. It's really helped me stop obsess over food so much. I feel like before, I was always very overwhelmed with food, and I was starting to hate food, because when you eat really healthy whole foods, and you cook all your food, three meals a day is a lot of food. These days, I actually skip breakfast most days. I would say I typically eat lunch around noon, between noon and two, and that's my biggest meal of the day.
I typically have like a big salad, lots of greens, a good high-quality protein, beef, pork, chicken, turkey, something like that, and then some really healthy fats. That's typically my biggest meal, and then I have a moderate sized dinner. Sometimes it's bigger. If I go to the gym and I work out, then I will have a bigger dinner. But typically I eat between seven ... I eat between about like noon and seven, or two and seven. That's typically my fast. It did help me lose weight. I lost about 10 pounds pretty easily, initially when I started doing it. That was really helpful. I think it's very helpful for weight loss. It can be very helpful for energy levels, but like everything, it's different for everyone, and you have to figure out what works for you. If it is something you're considering, I would make sure that you're not underweight, you're not breastfeeding, you're not pregnant, you don't have severe hyperglycemia, and then you should probably ease into it slowly. Start with a 12 hour fast, slowly work your way up.
A really good resource that I recommend is Jimmy Moore's guide. I think it's called the Ultimate Guide to Intermittent Fasting or something like that. But Jimmy Moore wrote it. He's a great author. It's a very informative read. It will be a great way to get you started. Okay. Alicia says, my poops are mushy. There are like fingers hanging off of them. What is this? I've read it could be inflammation but I don't know. Yes, I would say lack of fiber is potential, Alicia. I would definitely add in more fiber to see if that helps. I would also be thinking about a bile deficiency. If you have elevated liver enzymes, ALT, AST, if those are high, if GGT is high, I would definitely be thinking about bile. I believe you're already taking bitters, Alicia, but it may be helpful for you to add in choline. I really like Genestra Phos Choline. That is in my online dispensary. You can do 500 milligrams, two to three times a day. See if that helps.
It could also be related to detoxification. If you're on a protocol and you're eliminating, your stools will be looser. If you're taking bitters at every meal, Alicia, I would just add in something to help build the bile. The bitters are great for stimulating, but you might need something to help build it. That's where I recommend the choline. I would give the choline a try, that might be really helpful for you. Okay guys, all right. That's all the questions I have for today. Remember, you can join me every Tuesday live at 4pm Pacific, and if you want to listen to me on the podcast, if you want to take me running, or walking, or in your car with you, you can subscribe to the HIGH on Energy Podcast. New episode drops every Thursday. Typically, we do these Q&A's the last Tuesday of the month, but I missed last week, so I totally gapped, so we did it on the first Tuesday of March, but thanks guys so much.
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Bile production and why you should care (hint: it's important for thyroid hormones and detoxification)
Bile may not sound like the sexiest thing but it is! Without bile your thyroid won’t work, your skin won’t shine and your estrogen will cause you nothing but problems.
Tune into today’s episode to learn why you should care about bile and how to boost it (bile style!)
Kendra Perry: Hello, hello, how's everyone doing? Welcome to another awesome episode of High on Energy TV. I'm just fiddling with my microphone here, just give me a sec. I always hop on, just a little bit too early. I get super excited to come on and then I hop on before actually making sure that I'm totally set up to talk to you guys. I am always, always excited to be here. I am Kendra Perry, I am your host. As always, I want to teach you how to get more energy.
Today, we're going to be talking about bile. Actually, this might sound a little bit funny, but bile is actually one of my very, very favorite topics to talk about these days. I feel like I've become a bit of a bile broken record. It's crazy, and I actually can't believe it, but up until recently I was pretty ignorant and unaware of why bile was so important. And I didn't really know much about it or talk about it very much. Hey Margret, welcome. I'm so glad you're here and guys if you're here with my right now, always chime into the comments and say hi, 'cause I love connecting with you.
Yeah, I was a bile ignorant person for a very long time, and I actually didn't know much about it. I kind of got turned onto it recently, when I've been learning a lot about detoxification and heavy metals. What I learned is that bile is incredibly important, not only for detoxification and heavy metals. But also for thyroid, for skin, for hormone levels, all these things. And suddenly I realized that my bile might not be functioning at its optimum, and maybe I should be considering bile more in that of my clients, okay. Now I'm a bile broken record like I said. Yeah, It's something that I think is really important, something that I think especially as women we really need to be considering and we really need to be talking about.
Today I'm going to talk about you know, what is bile? Why should you care? What does bile do? Who is at risk of having bile issues? And then as always, I'm going to give you some actionable tips, things that you can start doing today. Things that you can start implementing to start boosting your bile. Very exciting, hope you guys enjoy today's episode.
Okay, let's jump into it. First of all, for those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, and you're wondering well, what the heck is bile? Bile is basically a greenish brown, it's very dark. It's a alkalide, and it's a fluid. It's very important for our digestion but also for our detoxification process. It is secreted in the liver and it's stored in the gallbladder. The gallbladder is actually responsible for releasing it. The liver makes it, sends it to the gallbladder. The gallbladder concentrates it, stores it, and when it gets the trigger or sort of like the message to send it, that is when it gets sent out. When it gets triggered into our digestive system and helps us with digestion, okay.
When it comes to bile, what it is actually made of? It's actually mostly cholesterol, which I think it's interesting because I feel like we've been pretty highly fear mongered about cholesterol and why it's bad, but it's actually incredibly important for bile. And if you have ever taken or know somebody who's taken cholesterol lowering drugs, this is a really big issue because it's actually going to cause a bile deficiency. Which is going to cause all these issues as you soon will learn, okay.
Bile also contains bile acids and also called bile salts and then bilirubin. These are the things that bile is made up of, and it's actually a big part of that is what makes your stool very dark. A very easy way to tell if you are you know, either you have a bile deficiency you're not making it properly. Or maybe your bile isn't flowing properly. A really great way to do this, to check on this is actually to look at your poop. If your poop is very light in color, if it's very pale looking. There's a good chance that you don't have good bile production. Your bile is not flowing as it should, so that's a really easy way to tell. Although it's not always straight forward.
Bile is that very dark greenish substance. That's what makes our stool that nice beautiful brown color that we want to see in the toilet every time we poop okay. Some of the primary jobs of bile, number one, it helps absorb fat soluble vitamins. It's what helps emulsify and break down fats okay. Pretty much every time you eat, there's certain triggers. Your stomach acid will get triggered as your food goes to your stomach. That is actually a primary trigger to your gallbladder to be like, "Yo, release some bile." And then by the time that food gets to the small intestine, and that will actually help emulsify and break down fats.
Your fat soluble vitamins are things like vitamin A, vitamin K, vitamin E and vitamin D. Very, very important vitamins, and they do need that bile to be able to emulsify them. If you don't have good bile, you're going to have a really hard time absorbing your fat soluble vitamins. That can really affect your skin health. I find with people with a bile deficiency, their skin tends to look very dull, it tends to be very dry. Sometimes kind of peely, sometimes itchy. Linda says, "Oh poop." You know, I love talking about poop Linda. It's nice to see you Linda, welcome, I'm glad you're here.
Bile also helps boost thyroid activity, this is what a lot of people don't know. Is that bile is incredible important when it comes to the function of your thyroid. And you know, on this podcast, we talk about getting you more energy. Typically you are tuning in because you're like, "I'm pretty tired Kendra, I need more energy." And if your thyroid is not functioning properly, well this can be a primary cause of fatigue, right?
We really want our thyroid to function properly. And getting our thyroid to function better is not about taking thyroid drugs, it's not about taking thyroid glandulars. That can help, but really we got to get to a deeper root cause. If your bile isn't flowing, then you're likely going to have thyroid issues. Because bile actually triggers the release of enzymes that convert T4 which is your inactive thyroid hormone. This is what your thyroid is producing, it's always producing T4. T4 isn't active. And so T4 needs to be converted, it needs to be activated into T3. T3 is the active hormone, it's the one that exerts the effect on our metabolism, on our energy levels.
Bile actually triggers the enzyme that causes that conversion. If your bile isn't working properly either because you have a deficiency or your bile is all sluggish and gross, and blocked up and kind of like sludgy. Think of like sludgy, think of like oil, sludgy oil. Then that conversion doesn't happen, so we don't have T3. Honestly there is a crazy statistic for thyroid issues. I mean, I see thyroid issues in most of the women that I am testing. I think the statistic say like 70% of women have a thyroid issue. It's crazy, it's like every woman I talk with has a thyroid issues, and obviously maybe I'm seeing a certain subset of people.
You know, obviously people are coming to me for fatigue. Typically there may be a thyroid issue, but it is crazy. I mean, I talk to multiple people each day who have thyroid issues. And I've always now, I wasn't six months ago, this wasn't even on my radar. But right now I'm always thinking about, well what is going on with their bile? Okay.
The other thing that bile does, is it actually helps regulate your hormones. Bile is really important for moving hormones out. Hormones are the chemical messengers of the cell. They basically just get instructions from other things in the body and then they go do a job, okay? Once that hormone has completed its message, once it has completed its job. It needs to be exited or moved, or eliminated out of the body. You can't have a hormone that now has an outdated message running amok in the body and causing all these issues. It's very important that hormones, once they are finished their job they get moved out of the body. The body will do that with bile, okay. It'll bind to hormones and it'll move them out of the body.
If you don't have good functioning bile, a lot of those hormones can actually be left to recirculate. If you have any dominance of a certain hormone like estrogen or testosterone, that can actually be due to a bile deficiency, and I see this a lot. Estrogen dominance, very nasty. Testosterone dominance, very nasty, right. You don't want to have these dominances, these are very potent hormones and they can cause a lot of issues in the bile, or in the body sorry. You know, if they are out of balance, especially if they are high, okay.
Who is at risk for bile issues? Anyone with a thyroid issue, I would definitely be paying attention, I would definitely be thinking about your bile. We've talked about how bile can drive things like estrogen dominance. Estrogen dominance, can actually create a bit of a vicious circle and actually cause a bile issue. Estrogen actually stimulates the liver to remove more cholesterol from the blood and divert it into bile. When you have too much cholesterol in your bile which can happen if you're estrogen dominance, that will actually cause the bile to thicken.
If you are estrogen dominant, you know, maybe because you have a bile deficiency. But then on top of that, you're taking hormonal birth control, you're bing exposed to synthetic estrogens in the form of plastics in our environment. Then you will have this situation going on where your body keeps pushing that cholesterol into bile from the blood, and that will cause that thick bile. That's really what we don't want. Because really, what we want bile to be like this like thin kind of viscous fluid. Kind of like water, we want it to kind of swirl around. You know, if were to get into bile and swim in it, you know, we'd want to be able to like easily kind of move through it.
But what happens with a lot of women, I'm seeing this a lot lately is that their bile thickens. It gets very sluggish and toxic, and sludgy, so that it's like goop. It's sticky and sludgy, so if you were to dive into that sludgy gross bile, it would just stick to you and you would lose energy so quickly 'cause you'd be wading against this crazy thick sludge.
Hopefully this is painting a really nice picture in your head for you. Yeah, so anyone who has estrogen dominance, or estrogen issues. Or is taking external sources of estrogen. Again, this can come from synthetic plastics, it can come from hormonal birth control. The pill, the patch, the IUD, the ring. I don't know, the needle, the implant, there's all these different types of birth control. They have synthetic estrogen, and no matter which form you are on, the progesterone, the synthetic progesterone is not true progesterone. It's progestin, so it doesn't have a true progesterone effect. Any form of hormonal birth control does stimulate estrogen, it does make you estrogen dominance. A copper IUD will do it do, because copper will stimulate the release of estrogen.
And then hormone replacement therapy, if you're on any bioidentical estrogen that you maybe don't need. That maybe is getting monitored with blood testing. Or you're on some sort of synthetic estrogen therapy. I mean, this can all cause the bile to thicken, okay? When the bile gets too thick, this is what actually leads to the gallstones. It's basically this really sludgy bile that eventually forms into stone, that can be incredibly painful. It can lead to you eventually needing your gallbladder removed. Which is really the worse case scenario, because the gallbladder is not a throw away organ. It is an organ that you need, and if you get your gallbladder removed, unfortunately you're going to have digestive issues for the rest of your life and you're probably going to struggle with your thyroid.
A lot of people gain a lot of weight after having their gallbladder removed, and that is because of how it affects thyroid hormone. It will ultimately slow down your metabolism and it can cause a lot of hormonal issues as well. Obviously there are extreme cases. If you let the situation get too bad, and you've been getting bad information for too long. You might get to a point where it's medically necessary to actually get your gallbladder removed unfortunately. Luckily there's things you can do to support it, but you will need to be taking bitters and bile salts, and bile builders with pretty much every single meal for the rest of your life. Or you're going to end up with these issues, okay. It's unfortunate.
Usually when someone tells me that it's been recommended by their doctor to have their gallbladder out. Usually what I'll say is, "Just give me six months." Give me six months, let's see if we can turn this around. As long as obviously the situation doesn't go to emergency medical status. And in every single case so far, we've been able to avoid that gallbladder surgery. If you can avoid it, if it is in anyway possible to avoid it, please do. We don't want to be removing organs, especially something as important as the gallbladder. It's a very important organ.
Let's talk about how you can identify if your bile is not flowing properly. Like, I said, you know, if you have some of those symptoms. If you have estrogen dominance, PCOS. If you feel really noxious after eating really fatty foods, if you don't feel like you digest fat well. These are signs that your gallbladder isn't working. You know, like I said, any thyroid issues these all make it likely that your bile isn't flowing. But you can actually do a bit of blood work, and so you want to get your liver enzymes tested. I actually talked about these in the last weeks episode, or two weeks ago I think? I talked about some of the blood markers you want to look at if you have fatigue. I did talk a little bit about these. If you want the functional ranges, I forgot to write down the functional ranges, 'cause I don't know them off the top of my head. But you can grab them in I believe it was two episodes ago. The one on blood chemistry markers for fatigue.
But you want to be looking at your AST and your ALT. These are liver enzymes and you don't want to be elevated. You want to look at them in comparison to the functional ranges. I really recommend you go back and check out that episode, because I actually give you the functional ranges for these two liver enzymes. If those are elevated that is a sign that your liver, gallbladder is functioning. But the one marker that you want to get and you're probably going to have to request this, because this isn't going to be typically a part of comprehensive metabolic panel. It is GGT. That is actually a really good gallbladder marker, if it is elevated again you can get that function range in that episode I did on blood chemistry.
That shows that your gallbladder is sluggish. Your bile production is not optimal. Either you're not producing enough, you're missing that trigger. If you have low stomach acid you're probably missing that trigger. Or that bile is really like thick and sludgy. You know, that really gross oily, nasty tar. Think of it like tar, right, we don't want our bile to be like tar.
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Okay, so as always, I want to give you guys some actionable tips. Things you can do to help improve bile function. The easiest ways to increase biles, or sorry, bitter foods in your died. Any bitter food is really good at stimulating bile function, okay. Angela says hey, I know Angela is here, that's awesome.
That's going to be a lot of your dark leafy greens. Swiss Chard, collards, dandelion greens, beet greens. Amy's here. Amy said she just learned about me through YouTube. That's awesome, welcome, I'm really glad you're here Amy. Some of the other things would be, yeah like beet greens. Arugula, radicchio, all those dark leafy greens are bitters. Beet root is a fantastic bitter, so is artichoke, also dandelion roots. I actually drink a dandelion root tea everyday at the end of the day. It's my afternoon drink to support my bile. I also try to eat lots of dark leafy bitter greens. I think those are really, really helpful, it's a really easy thing. You know, you can eat them in a smoothie, throw them in a soup. I like to saute them up with just butter and salt, that is my favorite way to eat them.
That's a really easy way to do it. Artichoke, I like making artichoke dip, or even doing an artichoke tincture, that can be incredibly helpful. The other thing that I really love ... You might not be able to see this, 'cause I've got a study light on me, this is a St. Francis Canadian Bitters. If you want to access this, you can get it in my online dispensary. Just shoot my Facebook page a message and I can give you access to that.
Just the bitters are basically just bitter herbs. For example, this has artichoke in it, it has dandelions, some of the things we've talked about. It has chamomile, gentian, tumeric, cardamon, burdock, black walnut and ginger. Those are all bitter herbs and I love taking them as a tincture. If you're in Canada this is really good, a lot of natural food stores actually carry this one. If you're in the states, I really like Urban Moonshine or Quicksilver Dr. Shade's Bitters No.9. Those are all really good options.
I take these with every single meal. I help take them to help stimulate bile with every single meal, I also take them first thing in the morning. Now if you don't have a gallbladder you wouldn't want to take these on an empty stomach. Because you don't have the organ you need to store bile. So you're just going to stimulate bile, and it's going to get dumped into your intestine, and that can be aggravating. You want to be taking this with meals.
Also if you don't have a gallbladder, you should add in bile salts and some sort of bile builder, like choline or taurine. Those are really great bile builders. I love taking taurine. Choline is amazing, if you are someone with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. You should be taking Phosphatidylcholine three times a day with every single meal. That can actually really alleviate that non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, so really, really, helpful.
The other thing I like to use is Tudca, so T-U-D-C-A. Tudca is a really great bile salt. Really helpful for people who don't have gallbladders, and people who have that sludgy bile. I also use a lot of celery juice. Celery juice is really great for sodium, potassium, it's also a great bile stimulate, okay.
The other thing that is really helpful for bile and you guys will probably be happy to hear this, is coffee. Coffee is a bitter food, it's actually a fantastic bile stimulant. It's a big reason why coffee makes you poop. It's like you drink your coffee, you poop, because it's stimulating your bile okay.
I'm not someone who actually thinks coffee is unhealthy. I think one small cup of coffee before 10:00 AM. It should be high quality organic coffee is a fantastic way to stimulate your bile. I have a coffee not every morning, 'cause coffee is a bit hit and miss with me. Sometimes it just doesn't make me feel good, so I have to be in the mood for it. But I would recommend just one small organic cup of coffee first thing in the morning. Now a light roast is going to have more bile stimulating properties, but a light roast has more caffeine. When I have a light roast, I feel like my heart's going to beat off the rocker. I don't tolerate the extra caffeine very much. But if you can tolerate it, go for the light roast. But the light roast it definitely tastes a little bit more acidic.
I don't think it tastes as good as dark roast, but I will try to have one once a week. Just to try to have that bile stimulating activity. Okay, so I'm going to hop into the comments now. Lisa says, "Thank you for the videos, you're so interesting to listen to. Explaining the body in laymen terms." I'm glad that helps. And then Linda says, "Not Tea?" Yeah, you can dandelion root tea, I'm not sure which tea you're referring too. But dandelion root tea is a tea that I will do, and then coffee. Those are the two things that can be really helpful. Also chicory root. Chicory root is also a bitter and you can make a tea out of chicory root. You can kind of do a dandelion, chicory root combo. Definitely go light on the chicory root, it is very bitter, very quickly. You actually don't need to steep it for very long if you're doing a chicory root tea.
When I do chicory root tea, I'll put the chicory powder in a glass, pour the water in and then strain it. I don't let it steep because it just gets too bitter and too strong. Those are my best tips. Just to summarize guys, remember we should care about bile because not only does it help us break down those fat soluble vitamins that we need of healthy skin, that we need for so many functions in our body. But we also need it for thyroid activity and moving old outdated hormones out of the body. Very, very important things.
When your bile stops functioning properly, so either you stop producing in high enough amounts or it gets thick and sludgy. This is a huge issue, this will leave to gallstones, eventually gallbladder surgery. This will cause your thyroid to slow down. If you have estrogen dominance, if you've taken hormonal birth control, copper IUD, you are at great risk for bile issues and you should be taking steps to boost your bile.
Remember that you can test for this by looking at liver enzymes AST and ALT. And then GGT is your primary gallbladder marker, and you will need to request it, it's not going to be a standard on most blood chemistry. And then to improve bile function, focus on those bitter foods. Things like dark leafy greens, beet root, coffee. Dark chocolate, didn't mention that one, but a little bit of dark chocolate is actually a great bile stimulant. You don't have a gallbladder, make sure you're taking digestive bitters with every meal. I recommend doing that too even if you have a gallbladder. But without a gallbladder you want to add in the bile salts and probably want to add in a bile builder like choline or taurine as well. You could also experiment with Tudca, which is a really fantastic thing as well.
Dandelion root tea, artichoke, all these things are very helpful. And I think everyday we should be doing things to boost our bile. We should be considering our bile every single day. And in my group membership program, High on Energy, this is the main way that I work with clients right now. I'm not taking on any one on one clients anymore. But I work with women in my High on Energy membership program, and we actually did a bile boosting challenge in December. We had people ... Hey Theresa.
We had people you know, doing something everyday, posting every time they were stimulating bile, with hash tag bile. Obviously there was a prize in the mix, I love giving away prizes. A lot of my members notices a lot of benefit from focusing on bile boosting. A lot of them said, "My skin is glowing. I have more energy. I feel like my digestion's better." We saw a lot of great results with that contest. I do encourage you to think about your bile every single day. I am definitely doing that these days.
I'm taking my bitters, I take choline. I drink my dandelion root tea, I have my coffee. I occasionally have some dark chocolate. I think that's it. Well, sometimes I do celery juice too. Theresa's in the group, she's in the comments right now and she really enjoyed the challenge. Right now we're having another challenge, we're having the I Love Me challenge, which is all about self care and loving ourself, because that is very important. If you guys want to be a part of the membership, that is the number one way to work with me right now. I'll put a link at the top of this episodes and in the show notes for the podcast guys. The podcast goes out every Thursday, a copy of this episode.
And then if you want to hop on with my life for the Facebook live show, that's going to happen every Tuesday at 4:00 PM Pacific. A question from Angela, she says, "How do we test for the health or size of our bile?" Just go back and listen to the first half of this episode Angela. It's GGT along with your liver enzymes, and I talked about that earlier in the episode, so you can just scroll back and just listen to that.
Cool guys, so that is all I've got for today. I hope that was helpful. Yeah, I love connecting with you and I will see you guys in the next episode, which happens next Tuesday at 4:00 PM. Take care everyone.
What does healing from fatigue, burnout and chronic health conditions really look like?
Do you just need one miracle supplement or one bomber health program and you're good?
Is it really possible to heal? Join me in today's episode as we get honest about what it takes to heal from a chronic disease.
Kendra Perry: Hey, hey, everyone. Welcome to another awesome episode of HIGH on Energy TV. We're at episode 11 and we're going to be talking about a very awesome topic today. As always, I am bringing awesome content to you and I would love to know if you guys are on with me live right now. Say. "Hey," introduce yourself, let me know you're here because otherwise, all I can see is an eyeball with your face. I'm really, really excited to be with you guys here today and we're going to be talking about little bit about what a true healing journey looks like, what that means as you go through your healing process, is it possible to heal and really, what does that entire journey look like because it's going to be little bit different for everyone. Honestly, I think when it comes to healing, when we're actually taking a honest look at your health and you're actually looking to improve and get better, I think people think it looks a certain way, when really, it kind of looks the opposite way to that.
Guys, if you want to learn more about me, you can always find out more about me on my website kendraperry.net or if you want to work with me, you can join my HIGH on Energy membership, where I bring you the most cutting edge functional health strategies. I give you access to testing like Hair Mineral Analysis, the GI Map, Metals Testing, so that you can get the information you need to know about your body. You can make this whole healing process happen a little bit quicker because without the information, I really believe that you're just guessing. There is not a practitioner in the world who is talented enough to guess about what is going on in your body and actually hit the nail on the head.
I've been talking about this a lot lately because I work with a lot of people. I have a lot of clients, I work with a lot of people in my HIGH on Energy membership. I believe we have almost 80 people in the membership, plus I have, probably, 50 clients, maybe more. I work with a lot of people, so I see how a lot of healing journeys unfold and I've been doing this for awhile. I see the different fears that people have as they go through their healing journeys and I see a lot of the confusion that people have as they go through their healing journey. Confusion is a big one.
Healing is not easy. It is very challenging. If you have decided that you want to go the natural health route, you've decided that drugs and surgery are not an acceptable option for you, you have chosen a amazing path but you have also chosen a difficult path. You have chosen a path that is well worth it and that you will be happy that you chose, but the path to health is neither straightforward nor easy and it is an up and down journey.
I just want to say hi to Ellen and Margaret, welcome. I know we've got a few other of you guys on here and I know that in the corner of the left part of the screen, it says Christine Hansen. That is not me. That is actually my colleague. We share a Zoom account, so sometimes I forget to actually change my name. I am not Christine Hansen. I am Kendra Perry and welcome to HIGH on Energy TV.
Let's talk about healing and what that actually might look like and what I would say that it typically looks like for most people. What I will say is that everyone's experience is 100% different. I see people react one way and another way and another way and another way. It really depends on you and what you have going on. It depends on the different things that are affecting your body, it depends on your mindset, it depends on the people who you surround yourself with, it depends on your lifestyle, it depends on a lot of the things that might be affecting your body that you may or may not have any idea about. It is very different, but something that is really important to keep in mind.
If you have symptoms, typically, if you're on this livestream, if you're listening to the podcast, you probably have symptoms. Most people don't come to me without symptoms. I think I had one woman ever, come to me with virtually zero symptoms and she was like, "I just want to get on top of this. I just want to see what's going on in my body, so I can prevent illness." That was unicorn. That doesn't usually happen because most people don't take any interest in their health or aren't even aware that they should be concerned about their health until they have symptoms. Right? Until there's something wrong and they feel like there's something that they need to address.
This is the thing about the body, all the body wants for you, the whole body intelligence really just wants you to be healthy. Right? The body is always trying to achieve and maintain balance. Right? Always wanting to maintain balance. It is constantly working to keep you symptom free, because from a survival perspective, from an evolutionary perspective, if you have symptoms that were so bad that you couldn't get out of the cave, that would be a huge issue. Right? Your body wants you to perform, it wants you to be able to gather, to hunt, to survive, to run when necessary and if your symptoms are bogging you down, you wouldn't survive and humans wouldn't survive for very long, right?
There's a lot of things. There are a lot of external factors and inputs affecting our body. Really, the body is just trying to keep you balanced and trying to keep you symptome free and healthy. Really, your whole life, that is actually what your body is trying to do. It's trying to keep you symptom free and healthy. But it can only do that for so long. Right? There's only so long the body can be in state of chaos to have constant insults coming in, in the form of bad food, in the form of stress, in the form of electromagnetic frequencies, in the form of toxins, heavy metals, environmental chemicals, all these things mold all these things that can affect us. Right? If it's just a little bit coming in here or there, body can probably deal with it but if it's a constant chronic assault on the body, at some point, things are going to really tip in the wrong direction. Right?
By the time you have a symptom, whether that's fatigue, burn out, exhaustion, food allergies, stomachache, indigestion, acid reflux, constipation, diarrhea, brain fog, depression, acne, any symptom. What that means is that your body can no longer compensate, your body can no longer keep you balanced and that did not just happen today and that did not just happen yesterday. That means that whatever is driving that symptom or more likely the collection of things that are driving that issue have probably been going on for a very long time. They've been going on for months, maybe years, decades, right? Probably a really long time.
Unfortunately, the way that our current medical system is set up, we don't really give any attention in the current medical system to things in that in between. We basically, in modern medicine, conventional medicine, we have two states. We have person who's healthy and we have the person who has a disease and who is fucking sick. We don't really approximately attention to this whole spectrum of things that happen in between. I'll just use blood work as an example because that's something that we are currently getting annually. We go in for an annual check-up, maybe we get some blood work drawn.
Let's use thyroid hormones, so let's just use TSH, thyroid-stimulating hormones. That's a primary hormone they test, a doctor will test when they're looking at your thyroid. The reference range for thyroid-stimulating hormone or TSH is 0.5 to 5. That's the conventional range, typically, is going to be. Let's say you're getting exposed to a lot of chemicals and metals and EMF, all these things. You're not eating the best diet, you're eating foods that you're sensitive to, you're eating a lot of food chemicals, blah, blah, blah. For some reason, because of your unique biochemistry, this is affecting your thyroid. It's causing your thyroid to slow down.
But you're going in for your annual physical and in the beginning, when things are pretty balanced, your TSH is about 1, which is actually a pretty optimal TSH result. Next year, you go in and you're at 1.3. Next year, you go in and you're at 1.9. Basically, it's steadily increasing over the he years and the decades. Now, every time you go in, there's a good chance, you don't even get a copy of your blood work. You don't even see it and if you do see it, you don't even know what it means and it's not going to get flagged as high or even trending in the wrong direction. Every year, you're just normal, normal, normal, normal, normal, normal and over time, you're like, "Ah, I'm starting to feel a little bit fatigued. I'm a little bit tired. Oh, I'm a little bit cold. I need an extra blanket. Weird, my skin's really drying out. Weird, dry skin, okay. My bowel movements aren't as good. They're a little bit hard. I'm getting this occasional hard pellet. Weird, my hair's thinning a little bit. It's falling out."
You're going in there and your doctor's like, "You're normal. Your thyroid's normal. Your thyroid's normal." Then, one day you go in and your TSH is at 6 or 5.5 or 5.1 or whatever. It's over 5. Your doctor is like, "Well, you have hypothyroid." They're like, "Okay, you have hypothyroid." If you have a good doctor, they're going to be like, "Maybe we should check your thyroid antibodies." Check your thyroid antibodies, they're at 200, so they're elevated. Now, you have Hashimoto's. You've officially been diagnosed with Hashimoto's.
You're like, "Oh my God. I just got Hashimoto's overnight. I literally just got Hashimoto's. What the hell? I was healthy last year, when I came in. I was normal. My blood work was normal and now, I have Hashimoto's. I have this diagnosed medical condition and I have to take Synthroid."
This is the big issue because that issue didn't happen overnight. Maybe that was progressing for decades. That number was slowly going up and probably, your antibodies were slowly going up as well, showing more and more autoimmune activity on the thyroid, but those test results, our system isn't really set-up to detect that. "We think, well I was healthy yesterday, and now, I'm sick. Now, I have a disease. Everything was good and then, suddenly, things went wrong. I can't imagine what happened. Nothing has changed. I've been doing everything the same." But really, that condition has been developing for a decade. You just didn't have any idea about it because nobody was reading your lab work appropriately, nobody was looking at functional ranges, nobody was paying attention when you were like, "I'm tired. My hair's thinning. My skin's getting dry," and now, you have a health condition.
Now, you're like, "Okay, I don't want to take Synthroid. I want to do this the natural way." You get going on some program, maybe you clean up your diet, you find a good program and you're wondering after three months, why isn't this working. Why is this taking so long. My whole point is ... I do have a point. I do have a point. My point is, is our health does not go side ways, overnight, in a few days or even in a few months. Typically, it's been developing over probably, our entire lives of toxicity, of exposure in the last 15 years. EMF, stress, all these things. Bad diet food additives, toxic people, all these things and it's been going out of whack for a long time, but we just didn't know because we weren't paying attention.
If it takes 10 years for you to develop something like Hashimoto's, how long do you think it's actually going to take to fix that? It's going to take time and I can't put a number on that. I can't tell you it's going to take six months, it's going to take a year, it's going to take five years. I can't tell you because everyone's different and there's so many things that go into a healing program and there's so many things you actually need to heal. But if you want to actually fix a problem and you want to get to the root cause and you want to reverse something that has become a chronic health problem, this is a long term approach. This is a long-term journey. This is not going to be a quick fix. Unfortunately, there's no quick fix. Anything in alternative health is not a quick fix.
I just want to say hi to Tierney. I hope I didn't just butcher your name, but hello. Welcome. I'm so glad you're here and I know there's eight of you on and a few of you are probably shy, so say, "Hey," or give me a little heart, give me a like. Let me know you're here. Let me know if what I'm saying is resonating with you. Let me know if you do have a chronic health condition that you're trying to reverse the natural way. I would love to know where you're at.
This is the thing, right? When we decide to undertake a natural healing protocol or program or journey or whatever, the first thing we need to accept is that this is going to take time. It's probably going to take longer than six months. Honestly, it may even take a year or even longer. It may take several years or it may be an ongoing life thing. I'm not trying to discourage you but this is the truth. These things have been developing our whole life and a lot of us with chronic health issues ... Oh good, I got Tierney's name right. Awesome. Welcome, I haven't seen you on here before and, so I just want to hello and so glad you're here. I voice cracked like a teenager there.
Yeah. I think, the first thing we need to understand is that it is going to take time. A lot of people want to know, "Well, I just need to do that and I'm good, right? Then, I'm good." No, you're not good. You're never going to be good and what I mean by that is the second thing we have to accept ... The first thing we need to accept is healing takes time. The second thing we have to accept is that we live in an incredibly toxic question world, incredibly toxic. We have never, in human history have ever been exposed to so many heavy metals and chemicals. 84,000 chemicals in our environment. Heavy metals are pretty much all around us. They're in everything.
I'm drinking out of a ceramic mug that I shouldn't be drinking out of because the ceramic glaze probably has lead, uranium. I'm slowly phasing these out but this is what I knew. This is what I know. We have to accept that we don't live in a world that is conducive to health. We have a lot of stressors in our lives. We have to wear a lot hats, especially us women. We need to be mothers, we need to be bosses, we need to be employees, we need to be spouses, we need to be best friends. We're wearing a lot of hats, right? We have a lot of stress. Then, we have the metals and chemicals.
Recently, in the past 10 to 15 years, we're dealing with EMF exposure. We're dealing with WiFi, we're dealing with 5G, we're dealing with cellphone towers, we're dealing with electricity, we're dealing with a lot of things that are very new and are disrupting our energy fields. I'm actually digging deep into EMF, right now, guys. That's definitely going to be a future topic. We have all those things going on. Right?
All those things are working against us. Now, this is not to discourage you. This is not to say there's things you can do to improve these things or protect yourself from these things, but because of these things, health is never going to be a thing. If you want to be healthy and you want to recover and you want to live a life where you're thriving and not just surviving, you are going to have to figure out what are the things that you need to do to keep yourself healthy.
When we first embark on a healing journey, we likely have to be pretty strict, probably going to have to run a bunch of testing. We're probably going to have to take a bunch of supplements. We're going to have to be super on top of it. But as things improve and as we heal over time, we're probably not going to have to be as more rigid. We're going to be able to tolerate more foods. We're going to be able to make a little bit more mistake in our diet. We're going to take less supplements. But still, what we're going to have to figure out is what do I need to maintain my health and keep myself healthy.
There's always going to be something. Using myself as an example, I have to be really on top of my meditation and self-care. Very type America. Maybe you've noticed that. I take on a lot. I'm an over achiever. I'm ambitious. I have a million projects on the go at all times. I work hard. I really have to be on top of grounding, on top of spending time outside, getting out in the sun, meditation and doing things to help me relax because otherwise, I just get anxious, I get overstimulated and things go sideways. I have to be very on top of my sleep. I am not someone who can stay up past 10:30 two or three nights in a row. That will seriously affect my health. That will push me back to feeling fatigue, feeling burnt out, feeling terrible.
I have a lot more room in my diet but I can't eat gluten. That's not something I can eat, so I have to consciously avoid gluten. There's all these different things. I also have to be very on top of my magnesium and calcium intake because I have a very fast metabolism and I burn these things really quickly. Those are the supplements that I need to focus on. I am 10 years into my health journey and I have made vast improvements. I feel significantly better, but if I don't stay on top of things, I can easily fall back into fatigue, into not feeling good, into insomnia. That's what I'm trying to say.
Healing is a journey. It's not like you just follow that three months or six month program, or you're good where you just run one round of testing and you're good. This is an ongoing journey. We need to always stay on top of things. I will test myself regularly. I'm always running my Hair Mineral Analysis Test, I'm running my GI Map, I'm running my Metals. I'm seeing what I'm getting exposed to. I'm seeing if I picked up an infection. I'm seeing if my minerals are getting further out of whack because if I don't stay on top of those things, it's very easy for me to fall back. The truth is if you have developed a chronic health condition, if you have chronic fatigue, if you've gotten to the point of exhaustion, burn out, if you have Hashimoto's or some diagnosed health condition, you've gotten to that point, which means you can always get back there. That is why you have to stay on top of things.
The next thing I want to talk about is the sort of process of healing. I think a lot of people think, "Okay, I just need to clean up my diet. Maybe I need to just exercise. I need to hop on a sauna and then, I'm just going to feel like this. I feel like crap. I'm at a four out of 10 for energy and now, I'm going to be at a 4.5 and then, I'm going to be at a 5.5 and a 6 and a 6.5 and a 7 and then one day, I'm going to be on a 10. It's just this sort of linear progression. You need to get that out of your head because it doesn't actually exist. It looks like this and sometimes, it looks like this. If you're on the podcast, first one was me making a wave. If you put your hand outside the window when you are moving really fast I a car and you do that wave motion. That's what I was doing. Then, I was making a scribble. It's not straightforward.
The truth is, as we go through this healing process, there's going to be a lot of ups and downs. This is because typically, in order for your body to get to a higher state of health, it has to feel crappy temporarily. When you improve your health, when you start doing better things for your body, things that actually support you, support your body's function, what it wants to do is it's like, "Great. I feel better, I have more energy, I'm going to do some house cleaning." That might mean it decides to move out a chemical or a toxin that you might have been storing in your body for years, for decades or something you were recently exposed to. When your body decides to detox something, what happens is that, that toxin or that chemical is going to temporarily end up in your blood stream or it's going to have to get pushed to your kidneys, your liver. It's going to have to get pushed out. It's going to be immobilized. That means that as you're detoxing, you typically don't feel great.
This is the biggest thing that turns people off their healing program and causes them to actually give up and think that it's not working or think that they're failing. It's a tough thing to deal with. I get it. I go through it too. I'll feel really good for awhile and then, I spend a few weeks kind of feeling crappy because my body decided to detox lead or get rid of whatever it was that it was dealing with. As a result, I feel more fatigued or I don't sleep as well. It's really easy in that moment to be like, "What I'm doing isn't working. I'm taking steps back. I'm back at the beginning. I'm back to where I started. I must be doing something wrong." Or the most common thing I hear is nothing has changed. I'm not doing anything different."
First of all, everything is always changing. Nothing is static in the body. Regardless of what you're doing, if you're always doing the same thing, what you're getting exposed to, the energy that is coming into your energy field is always changing. Right? That doesn't even make sense. When you're like, "Well, nothing has changed." Everything's changing. Everything is always changing. Our body is constantly dealing with inputs or outputs. But the other thing is you don't want to look at it as things are getting worse. I'm doing the wrong things. Usually, what it means is that you just need to stay the course.
Now, this may be really hard to determine if you're doing things on your own and this is why I really do recommend you work with someone. In my HIGH on Energy membership, we are always running testing, we a re retesting, we are re-looking at things, so that we can tell if someone's actually progressing, which helps because sometimes, if you're doing this on your own, you feel crappy for a couple of months. You're like, "I don't know if this is actually helping or I'm feeling worse. I don't actually know." But if you're doing testing, if you're tracking it with testing and looking at the numbers and tracking things, then it's a lot easier to know if what you're doing is the right thing and if you actually just need to stay the course.
It's not a straightforward journey and it's up and down and you can get to a point with your health where you're like I feel amazing. This is the best I've ever felt. But you could still go back to feeling crappy temporarily because the better you feel, the better your body is going to detox and the better, the more it's going to be immobilizing this toxins into your bloodstream to move them out, which means that you feel crappy.
That is what I'm trying to say. The first thing we need to realize is that our health does not get bad overnight. We don't develop chronic health issues overnight. They develop over months, years and likely, decades, possibly even our whole lives, which means that there isn't a quick fix. These things are going to take time.
Number two, what we need to realize and accept that we live in a very toxic world. Pretty much everything is working against us. Health can never take a back burner. It's always something that we're going to have to stay on top off. Obviously, as we get healthier, there's a bit more room for error, but you probably are still going to always have to take a certain supplement or practice self-care or focus on meditation, focus on taking time for yourself, exercising, that sort of thing, but we're always going to have to be consciously aware of the things that we're doing to keep ourselves healthy.
Then, number three, health is not a linear progression. Healing is not a linear progression. It's a wave. It's fucked up scribble. There's a lot of ups and downs and sometimes you feel very alone, sometimes you feel very frustrated, but if you are working with a good practitioner, someone who can guide you through this, someone who is using functional testing to guide the process, you just need to stay the course and make adjustments as you go.
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Is IV chelation for heavy metal detox safe or even effective for metal detox?
Did you know toxic metals are a primary cause of fatigue and burnout? Metals poison the enzymes that the cells mitochondria needs to function. If your mitochondria can’t perform, you can’t perform.
Metals are also potent endocrine disruptors and can mimic human estrogen leading to hormonal and fertility issues.
But is it a good idea to aggressively pull them out of the kidneys with IV chelation? I give my 2 cents in this episode.
Kendra: Hey guys, how's it going? Kendra Perry here, welcome to another episode of High on Energy TV. As always, I am super, super excited to be with you today and I'm super excited as always to show you how to get more energy. Yay. And today we're going to be talking about something that's as always, I feel pretty passionately about. I feel like I have a lot of opinions and I'm really glad that you guys want to hang out with me every weekend and here my opinions. And today we're going to be talking a little bit about heavy metals and we're going to be talking about Iv Chelation, which is typically the standard strategy, but a lot of practitioners are going to use if they have determined that you have a heavy metal issue. Okay. And so let's talk a little bit first about toxic metals. So toxic metals, you're going to find them on the periodic table and they're basically just elements in our environment that are very toxic to the human body.
So in terms of metals so let's, if we compare them to minerals, you're going to find minerals also on the periodic table that of course minerals have biological function, they have physiological function. They're actually incredibly important for our bodies to function properly and for us to be healthy and not [inaudible] And unfortunately I'm glad you're here. And if you guys have questions you can definitely ask them in the comments and I will do my best to get to them at the end of the video or as we go through the video. And basically metals, they don't have any physiological function. Ellen's here too, welcome Ellen. And so with metals in the body, they are going to disrupt the bodily functions, the bodily, the process regardless. Okay. Even small amounts of metals are still an issue. And the biggest issue with a lot of heavy metal testing, and I would include hair mineral analysis, my favorite test. in this is that they have really kind of loosey goosey reference ranges.
And it's crazy how on a lot of even mineral metals are still metals or hair mineral analysis, like just a little bit of metal will pop up and it looks like, oh, it's not a big deal. It's the very tiny bottom of the reference range. But actually that's actually a pretty big deal. And that's just because like I mentioned, there's no physiological function. There's no biological function for metals. So even a small amount getting into your system is going to cause issues. And the primary issues with metals is that they interfere with the cell mitochondria. Okay. And the mitochondria is like this little energy powerhouse within your cell. It's responsible for making something called ATP or adenosine triphosphate, which is your cellular energy. Think of it like gasoline being put into the car. The ATP is the gas for your body. So when you don't have ATP, I mean not only will you not maybe feel energetic or have energy, but like the body doesn't run, right.
So if metals are interfering with the mitochondria, this is a huge, huge issue. Right? And this is why I think a lot of these tests, each GMA labs included need to actually do a better job of reporting their reference ranges because it just makes people think, and I think it makes ... It gives people a false sense of security. They're like, "Oh, I don't really have many metals." Or practitioners are like, "Oh, it's really low. It's not a big deal." But when even like these ... When I look at hair mineral analysis, even if I see just a little bit of metal popping up then I'm still gonna call that metal toxicity. I'm still going to cause that an issue. Okay.
And typically when you get to some sort of metals testing and you're found to be metal toxic, wherever you're working with is like, okay, you have a metal problem. We need to be toxic metals. If they are licensed practitioner, if they're a doctor, they're a natural pathic doctor, typically what they're going to do is they're going to recommend IVT chelation. Okay. And so chelators are basically synthetic substances that grab metals and pull them out of the body. Okay. And when you first look at that, you're like, oh, that sounds really good. Like that's what I want to do. I want to grab these metals and I want to move them out of the body.
But unfortunately when these chelators pull metals out of the body, they end up re circulating the body several times. And so they pull these metals through the kidneys and that in itself is very, very, incredibly hard on the kidneys. Okay. And it can actually be dangerous and it tends to cause a lot of symptoms. You Google symptoms of IV chelators online or you get on some forums, you listen to some people who've gone through this experience, you may not hear a lot of good recommendations or good stories around it. And there's a lot of people who swear and I tend to believe them that they totally lost their health or their health totally went sideways after a chelation treatment. My father is actually one of those people this was many, many years ago. And I mean I don't ever think there's one thing that causes everything, but I think this was a trigger for him because he had some stuff going on and he got ... Was recommended to do a certain chelation therapy and within a couple days of getting chelation therapy, he got [inaudible]
Yeah. So I would say like in terms of chelation therapy you gotta be in a really strong place to even consider taking it. I would highly recommend that you do it alongside mineral balancing. I don't think you should ever do it by itself, just chelation. And I think the thing that we really have to consider is the source of the metals. Okay. And so any metal detox really does begin with determining, well, where are these metals is actually coming from? Okay. So I looked at a couple hair mineral analysis panels today. It's actually a husband wife team that I'm working with, they were awesome. And both of them have aluminum through the roof, like off the charts, way outside the reference range, just super high and it's really concerning.
And I'm like, okay. So the first thing we do when I look at that is I'm like, okay, like we need to figure out where that aluminum is actually come from. So I go through their intake, I study their intake when I talk with them in a session, I pull up all the sources and we talk about it. And am like is this ... Because these things can be hiding in your environment? And what we actually determined? Well first of all they had both just recently quit smoking cigarettes as of December. So they've only been off cigarettes for about a month. So unfortunately cigarettes are full of synthetic chemicals. They're full of metals, they're full of cadmium and aluminum is a very common filler in a lot of cigarettes. So as soon as I knew that information as like, okay, so cigarettes is definitely part of it and luckily they quit smoking. So this is really good. Okay. So we've dealt with that.
The other thing that came to mind with the aluminum was the fact that they eat out a lot and almost all restaurants actually cook with aluminum because it's much cheaper than stainless steel and that aluminum readily leaches into food. So if you're someone who eats out a lot of restaurants, then that is definitely an issue. And yeah, you're going to be consuming high levels of aluminum. So it's too bad because eating out is nice, but if you do it all the time yeah, you're going to not only get, have an issue with aluminum but probably many other issues as well. Okay. So once you determine, okay, and we can't, it is impossible to remove all sources of metals. Unfortunately, they are all around us. If you just look at this room like there's probably toxic metals in the paint.
There's probably at some point that couch behind me probably was off gassing formaldehyde and other chemicals maybe even burning. Luckily it's a used couch, so hopefully it's not doing those things anymore. Okay. But we have a very intimate relationship with chemicals, with metals. So it isn't possible to fully remove the sources of all of these things, but we can do a very good job at least removing the major sources. Okay. The next approach I would take to heavy metal detox that doesn't involve chelation would be to balanced minerals. Okay. And you might be wondering, well, what do minerals have to do with metals? And the truth is they have everything to do with metals. Okay. And this is because minerals and metals are very similar. Okay. They have similar properties. They all sit on the periodic table.
They might have different molecular chemical weights, different valences, different numbers of electrons in their shells. This is getting pretty nerdy with chemistry, but they are similar. Okay. And what that means is that if the body's in a pinch, if the body is lacking something, that it needs to complete a certain function. And when I talk about lacking, I'm talking about minerals. The body can actually use metals in the place of minerals to perform a specific function. So a really good example is cadmium and lead. Okay. So lead and cadmium have very similar chemical structures, very similar atomic weights.
Cadmium will fit into a lot of the binding sites that zinc needs to fit into. But obviously cadmium is incredibly toxic and it's only going to do a small portion of the jobs that zinc does. But if the body is zinc deficient or it doesn't have bio available zinc to work with then it can use cadmium. If there's cadmium on the body, it can actually use it. Okay. there's also a similarity between calcium and lead, for example. So these two are very similar. And if the body is lacking calcium and this would be true in someone who is an excessive or fast oxidizer, they tend to have very low levels of calcium and the body can actually use lead to make both. Okay, Because 99 of calcium should be in the bone. And what's not in the bone, it causes issues. And if it's getting pulled from the bone because it's bioavailable, the body needs to use something to build the bone and it will use lead. unfortunately lead makes really crappy little bone, but it is better than nothing.
Okay. [inaudible] simply pull metals out of the kidneys. why would you want to do that if the body's actually utilizing those metals in place of mineral deficiency? And I think this is how chelation therapy can make people very sick, only is chelation pulling metals very aggressively through the kidneys, which is very hard on the kidneys, very hard on the liver, very hard on the body, but it's also pulling them from the body before the body might be ready to eliminate them. Because really the body needs to be re-mineralized. And this is why hair mineral analysis and re-mineralizing and mineral balancing is so important because the body will let go of what it does it need when you actually give it what it needs. Okay. So for example, like if you are calcium deficient and your body is using lead in place of calcium then you need to restore your calcium levels. But you can only do that if you actually know your calcium levels and where they're actually at.
Right? So we do that with hair mineral analysis. And then maybe the body would love to let go of cadmium but it doesn't have good zinc levels. So we need to actually make the zinc more bio available. And when we do that, we can actually way more easily get the Cadmium out of the body. So I always start with hair mineral analysis because you want to make sure the body is in a really strong place. Just because you know something is present in the body, like heavy metal toxicity doesn't always mean that it is the time to go for it. And sometimes you actually do need to build the body up before the is actually ready to address and deal with metals. Okay. So when it comes to once you re-mineralize the body and you're supporting the minerals and the body has a strong metabolism, is in a stronger energetic state, this could be a good time to start going from metals and there's a lot of strategies you can do.
But even at that point I still recommend IV chelation. I still think it can be sketchy. I still think it can be harmful. So I think at that point I would use some natural chelators. I'm a big fan of coriander seed oil. I'm a big fan of activated silicon. So bio cell, it's a product that is marketed for hair, skin and nails, but it's actually a really great heavy metal immobilizer. I love modified citrus pectin as a binder. And when there are a lot of metals in a person and I really suspect that they are very high in the body based on testing, I'll actually do an EDTA suppository. So this is a ... EDTA is a chelator, but when you insert it rectally, so into the anus, it actually doesn't get pulled through the kidneys three times.
It only goes through once. So it was much easier on the body, go straight into the bloodstream and it really takes a lot of the pressure off of the liver and the kidneys. And as a result it has very few side effects. People might experience a little bit of fatigue, a little bit of diarrhea, but they don't get the scary and often dangerous side effects that can actually come with IV chelation. Okay. And so I think this is really, really important. I think it's ... And I see this a lot and I'm not trying to bash other practitioners that are doing this, but this is what a lot of the research is on. And the reason for this is because our knowledge of heavy metals, what's in the research is usually based around workplace or industrial accident exposure. So these more extreme situations where people are working in a mill or a factory and they get exposed to some high dose metal or some like nuclear disaster or some industrial disaster that leaches some chemical in really high amounts into the environment.
In those cases when you've had a really extreme aggressive exposure to metal, like IV chelation may actually be something that would save your life and something that would be the best course of action. There are certain situations where it's so bad that you need something really strong like that. But IV chelation is not a good strategy for long term chronic low grade metal exposure. And that's typically what we're dealing with as people who maybe don't work in factories or aren't getting exposed to these things in high doses as a result of some local disaster. A lot of us have this low grade chronic metal accumulation and exposure and the really a good strategy is not to go in aggressively and pull these things out of the body. Okay. So I always start with, we talked about exposure. Like where are these things coming into her life?
How can we reduce our exposure as much as possible? Great way to start is to filter your shower water and your tap water because that's how a lot of us are actually getting exposed to metals. So that is a really good starting point. And then starting to look at your personal care products your beauty products, starting to look at cookware. What you're eating your food on, what are your cooking your food in. These are all really important things. Okay. And then once we've kind of talked about exposure and obviously when you're addressing exposure and removing these things from your environment it's not a quick fix. It takes time and it is sort of it's a process. I'm still years in slowly replacing things and getting certain things out of my life that I know are toxic.
And then at that point that's where it would be a great time to run a hair mineral analysis test. If you're a member of my High on Energy program, my membership program, you can access this task as an upgrade. It's where I start everyone with, because when we re-mineralize the body, the body will naturally start to let go of some of its metals. And once we get to the body to a strong stage, to a place where the energy is strong and the person is feeling much better and feels like they can take on a little bit more. That's when we start to do the stronger metal detox. And that way it might be when I do some EDTA suppositories, when I might do more natural chelators. But if you're wondering what is a good sort of like general metals strategy that we can all do on a regular basis to help our body not accumulate some of these toxic metals that we are getting exposed to on a regular basis.
And so first would be to do BioSil. So BioSil liquid, like I said, this is marketed towards skin, nails and hair, but it is a fantastic heavy metal immobilizer. I would only start with one drop and I would not go much further than six or seven drops. It can cause a lot of fatigue, especially if you are someone who has a lot of metals in their body, but you would never take this without taking a binder. And the only binder I recommend is EcoNugenics. This is modified citrus pectin. This company has backed up their process with many studies, many scientific trials. And the reason I like it is because modified citrus pectin will bind two metals, it will bind chemicals. It will bind to all the crap, but it will not bind the minerals. And that is a huge downfall of many binders out there is they bind to everything.
And in a society where we are incredibly mineral deficient where we are dealing with a mineral and nutrient poor of food supply, we don't want to be taking anything that's going to make that situation worse for us. And that's why I only recommend the modified citrus pectin. You're going to do something like charcoal or bentonite clay. I recommend rotating it. So only doing it for maybe three or four days and then taking a couple of weeks off just because it is going to have a pretty significant effect on binding to your minerals. Okay. So I hope that was helpful guys. And if you're on with me for Facebook live, so I do this Facebook live every Tuesday at 4:15 Pacific time. If you want guys want to hop on with me live and then this episode actually goes out as an episode of the High on Energy podcast and that goes out every Thursday.
But if you guys are on Facebook live with me right now and you'd have questions, just let me know. I'm always happy to answer your questions. There is a bit of a delay between when I see the product testing, you want to get the answers and you're second guessing what's going on with your energy, what's going on with your health and you want to actually get a strategy that science tells you is correct. You can work with me and my High on Energy group membership program. Currently, that is the only way to work with me and say, I'm not taking on one on one clients, but members of my group, get lots of support from me and they also get access to the testing. All right guys, you guys, and I'll see you guys next Tuesday for the next High on Energy episode.
3 Blood Chemistry results that give insight into energy production (that many Doctors ignore).
It’s it frustrating when a woman goes to the Doctor and ALL the blood work comes back as “normal”? She is sitting there feeling like a pile of crap and her Doc is standing there telling her that “You’re healthy” or “It must be stress.”
Kendra Perry: Hey guys, how's it going? Welcome, welcome, to another episode of HIGH on Energy TV. I am your host, Kendra Perry, and as always I am pretty friggin' excited to be with you today. So I'm gonna be standing here pretty close to my microphone because I'm in a new office, as you can see, for those of you who are hanging out with me on Facebook Live. And it's a little echoey in here, we've got high ceilings, we've got rock floors. So I'm just gonna try to be super close to my mic, because when I'm close to my mic, my audio sounds better. So hopefully you guys can hear me okay if you're on with me live make sure to say hi, say hello. I love to connect with you and know who's here.
And today we're actually gonna be talking a little bit about blood chemistry markers and which markers you should be using for ... oh, that's weird. And which markers you should be using if you want to try to unwind the reason why you're so tired.
Because honestly, there is nothing more frustrating than going to the doctor, getting a whole bunch of bloodwork done, and then just being told that, "Hey, you're healthy, everything's normal." And you're sitting there being like, "Man, I feel like garbage. I feel like crap. And this guy's telling me, or this gal's telling me, that I'm healthy." Or they're like, "Well you're probably just stressed out." And you're just like, "Man, I've been going to yoga, I've been meditating. My life isn't that stressful. There's something else going on." And you're just not getting validated for that at all.
And so I'm gonna talk to you today about, there's many blood chemistry markers that can help you but I want to focus on three really specific ones, 'cause these are three that don't get ... they're not often run. A couple of them are, but they're definitely ones that you should request, and they should be a part of a standard blood chemistry that you get with your doctor. Okay.
So with blood chemistry, the big reason why everything is always coming back as normal or as in range is because the lab is using really wide reference ranges. So it is actually regulated, or it's a law, that lab ranges, the normal, quote-on-quote normal range, needs to include 90% of the population, okay? And as the population shifts, that range needs to also shift with that population, okay? And so this is a big issue, right, because there's a pretty big trend happening these days where people are getting sicker. People are getting sicker and sicker and I think that's quite apparent when you look at the younger generation. When you look at a lot of the people, you can probably think of a couple people in your life, maybe even yourself, who has an autoimmune condition.
Autoimmune conditions are incredibly common. They get grouped into all these different categories based off of the tissue that is being attacked by the immune system, but they are really all the same process in the body and if you lump them all into one category, for example, that would surpass cancer when it comes to statistics. So a lot of people have autoimmune conditions, a lot of people have a lot of chronic health issues. So as the population gets sicker, those lab ranges legally have to shift to accommodate the sicker population.
So when you're in range, your doctor is telling you that you're normal, really what that means is that you're falling within the spectrum of a population of people who aren't that healthy. So looking at conventional ranges, I mean, it doesn't tell us anything. It doesn't tell us, "Oh, this is actually working fine, you're healthy." It literally just tells us that you're somewhere in an average of a population of people who don't feel great and who are sick and don't necessarily take care of themselves. So we use something in functional medicine, we use functional ranges. These are more narrow lab ranges. They're based off of what's been found to be appropriate for good function. And so these are much more narrow and they also will find things trending in the wrong direction way quicker than any conventional range will pick up.
And so what I mean by this is, your health doesn't go sideways overnight. That doesn't happen. It's always a buildup over time. When you start manifesting symptoms, that actually means that what you've had going on, what caused those symptoms, is something that may have been going on for months, for years, or even decades. And the reason for this is because our bodies are designed to survive. And if we had symptoms, it would be very hard for us to survive in the real world, IE, nature before the industrialized world, right? If we were sick and fatigued and tired, how would we outrun predators? How would we outrun a cougar? Or whatever. How would we find food? How would we hunt if we were tired AF? Right? And so the body tries its best to keep us in balance, to try to keep us at homeostasis, as balanced as possible.
So the body is always compensating. The body doesn't want you to have symptoms. So it spends years trying to keep you balanced, trying to compensate as best it can. During that time, you may not have a lot of symptoms. You're like, "I feel good, life is good." But then suddenly you start manifesting symptoms. And when we start getting symptoms we're like, "Oh man, nothing has changed. I don't know what caused this." But meanwhile, whatever is causing it, the dysfunction that's been kind of pulling at that balance point, that homeostasis in your body, has probably been going on for a really long time. By the time you have symptoms, there is a disease state going on in your body. There is dysfunction. Okay?
And these really wide lab ranges that we're using in the conventional medicine system, they don't pick up dysfunction until things have gotten really friggin' bad, okay? So by the time you are out of range on your blood work, that's a big deal. That's actually super, super out of range. And because those lab ranges are so wide and rarely does your doctor actually explain your blood chemistry to you or even really track when things are maybe shifting in the wrong direction. So maybe you're at optimum, you're right in the middle of the range, and you keep trending right, going further and further towards the high end of range. Maybe this is happening over 10 or 20 years. But your doctor's not tracking that. They're not saying, "This is getting higher." They're not really comparing it. Typically they're just saying, "Oh, that's in range, so you're fine."
And so all this time, unknowingly, your health is getting worse, something is turning in the wrong direction, and then suddenly when you go to the doctor it gets flagged as high, it's outside of the range, and your doctor's like, "Oh, this is a big deal." And you're like, "Oh my god, this happened overnight, this is crazy. Six months ago I was healthy, and now I have a disease." And you get diagnosed with something. And so you're just like, "Oh my god, this just happened overnight. I was healthy and now I'm not." And that's not really what's going on, that's not what's happening. It's actually been developing for years. There's just no one that's actually explained to you that things were actually trending in the wrong direction. Okay?
So, that's me hanging out on my soap box. Okay. So let's talk about, so with functional ranges what I just want to say about that is what's cool when you use them is when things get flagged high on your functional range it's gonna detect things that don't get flagged high in the conventional range. So that means that we can pick up dysfunction well before it turns into a full blown chronic disease. And it means we can turn things around, right? Because it's way easier to turn things around before they've progressed to a certain state. Like, when people get multiple diseases, multiple diagnoses, and they get put on multiple prescription drugs, that's a tough situation. It's not to say that it's not fixable. There's always hope. But it is something that's a big more chronic and it's typically gonna take a longer time to heal. So that is something that is really important to keep in mind.
Okay. So let's talk about the three blood chemistry markers that you ... let's see here. Okay, we'll talk about the three blood chemistry markers that you should be getting measured if you are someone who is really fatigued. You're really tired. You feel really drained, really burnt out, and nothing seems to be fixing it. And guys, I'm having something weird going on with my e-cam right now. Just so you know if you guys are on with me live and you're commenting with me, I actually can't get to the comments because my cursor is stuck to the video screen. And so I can't click on anything. So anyways, we're just gonna roll with that. If you guys are with me say hi, say hello, but if you have questions there's something glitching out here so I'm not gonna actually be able to answer them. But that's okay. I usually come back, if you guys have questions feel free to ask them. I'll come back later and answer them in the comments or I'll add them to the Live Q&A that happens on the last Tuesday of every month at 4:15 PM Pacific Time.
Okay. So the first blood chemistry marker I wanted to mention is something called hemoglobin A1C. Or HA1C. And this is actually a blood sugar measurement, and what's very cool about this marker is it's not just what's going on with your blood sugar on the day that you took the test, it's more of an average of what's been going on with your blood sugar regulation over about three months. Why is this important for energy? Because glucose is our primary energy molecule, right? We use that to give ourself energy. So if you don't metabolize or move glucose very well into your cells there's a good chance you're gonna be feeling really tired. You might be having lots of blood sugar fluctuations. Your energy might go up and down throughout the day. Because your body is not regulating your blood sugar well.
And there can be a few things going on with this. Sometimes there's too much insulin in the blood. Insulin moves that glucose into the cell and if there's too much insulin then it can cause low blood sugar. It can push that glucose too quickly or too aggressively into the cell. Or, if insulin is too little, if there's not enough insulin then every time you eat you have an excessive amount of blood sugar in your blood and because you don't have enough insulin then your body as a really hard time shoveling that glucose into your cell and therefore your energy production is going to be hindered. Okay.
So with a lot of blood work, you may get a fasting glucose, at a minimum. And sure, that's great, it's good to know what's going on with glucose. But without saying insulin, and insulin is actually a pretty rare marker that doctors will actually order, it can be really hard to see what that blood sugar actually means. And that's why I like hemoglobin A1C, because it kind of looks at the whole picture. And where you want to be is you want to be below 5.5%. So if you are above 5.5% or even if you're getting close to 5.5%, maybe you're at 5.4, that can be you trending in the wrong direction and what that will tell you is if you don't turn things around, if you don't get your shit figured out, then you're gonna be on your way to metabolic syndrome and Type 2 diabetes. And so that's a really good measurement, because sometimes why people are so tired is because they don't regulate their blood sugar properly.
And if hemoglobin A1C is high, the first thing you're gonna want to do is take a really good look at your diet. For people who are having issues regulating their blood sugar, if they're having blood glucose metabolism issues, the first place to look is your breakfast. Like what are you eating for breakfast? If you are eating a breakfast that is high in carbohydrate, high in sugar, cereal, muffins, donuts, granola, these are not good things to eat for breakfast. And if you have elevated H1AC or hemoglobin A1C, this is even a bigger deal. I was working with a client earlier this week and he had a high hemoglobin A1C and when I looked at his diet there was lots of fruit, there was lots of granola bars, and there was cereal for breakfast. And I was like, "We need to completely flip this. We need to get you on high protein, high fat diet. We need to reduce the sugar. We need to reduce the refined carbohydrates in order to turn this around." And so that's always where you start.
But if you eat a really healthy diet, if you're eating a paleo-esque sort of diet, higher fat, higher protein, lower carbohydrate, the next thing to look into would be fasting. Intermittent fasting can be really helpful for helping people to reregulate their insulin and their blood sugar. And if you've done that and it's still high then you're gonna want to consider mineral imbalances and gut infections. There are certain situations where the body has chronic infections where they can't actually ... where, sorry, the body will actually keep people insulin resistant on purpose due to the infections that are in the body. So that is the H1AC, and like I said, you want to be below 5.5% for good health and good energy production.
The next marker I want to measure is reverse T3. Okay, so this is, should be, in my opinion, part of every single comprehensive thyroid panel. But rarely is it measured, and you do usually have to request it. In Canada, you can definitely get it from a naturopathic doctor. If you ask your doctor about it they actually may have no idea what you're talking about but it's only about a $40 test. But it's really important. And so yeah, I mean, obviously it's good to look at a comprehensive thyroid marker but reverse T3 is an inactive form of T3. And T3 is just your active thyroid hormone. So that is what regulates your metabolism, what gives you energy, and if your reverse T3 is high it tells you that your body is not producing active thyroid hormone. So that's gonna mean you're gonna have sluggish metabolism, sluggish thyroid activity, and lower energy. And you want your T3 to be below 15. And if it's above 15, that can tell you that you have a chronic infection in your gut. It can also tell you about heavy metal toxicity and that's one I see all the time. And so you're gonna want to look into those things. Look at your exposure to metals, to chemicals, implement some detox strategies, and clear up your gut. 'Cause you want that reverse T3 or that RT3 to be below 15 or you're gonna feel fatigued. You're gonna have low energy.
The next markers, and this is more a collection of markers, this isn't really a single marker, but this is your liver enzymes and your gallbladder enzyme. So this is AST, ALT, and GGT. So AST and ALT, those are your liver enzymes. When those start to get high, what that tells you is that your liver is starting to have a hard time metabolizing fat properly, and sugar. So when your liver enzymes are above ... so you want your AST to be below 20, so between 10 and 20 international units per liter. And you want your ALT to be between 10 and 25 international units per liter. And so when AST and ALT start to get high, that means you are on your way to non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. And that just means that your liver is stressed out, it's probably toxic. It means that you're probably eating a diet that is too high in carbohydrates, refined sugar, again, there's a huge dietary component. And you're gonna want to probably take something to help with your liver.
So a supplement that I just ordered, I've been looking into and I'm starting to recommend to clients, is this BioRay Liver Life. It's a liver tonic and it has really amazing herbs that help regenerate your liver. Now, it does have a bit of milk thistle in it, and milk thistle has some detoxification blocking effects, so you do want to cycle on and off of it. Making sure you're not taking it all the time. And guys, if you're asking questions right now on Facebook Live, I'm sorry, I'm glitching out with my e-cam right now so I actually can't see your comments and I don't have the ability to click on them. But, ask your questions and I'll make sure they get answered in the monthly Q&A.
So this liver life from BioRay, really love it. Really good for regenerating the liver. The other marker that is a part of this category is GGT. And GGT, you want it to be between 18 and 28 international units per liter. And if it gets high, that is a sign that your gallbladder is struggling, okay? Your gallbladder probably has thick sluggish toxic bile. The bile isn't flowing. There might be some biliary obstruction, stasis, it's not moving, insufficiency, damage, and that's a big deal. And why should you care about liver, gallbladder, what does this have to do with energy? Well, your liver, it gets the fame for being a detoxification organ. But it actually has mostly digestive function. So if your liver is struggling you're gonna have a hard time breaking down and assimilating nutrients, assimilating food. And that is going to play into your energy levels. And if your bile is sluggish because of gallbladder issues, that's huge because bile is your primary detoxifier. It is a binder. It moves toxins out of the body and it also regulates your hormones. So sluggish bile is a big reason why women have PCOS, why women have estrogen dominance, all these things can affect your energy levels. And a big reason why women are toxic, okay? Also a huge reason why they have thyroid issues. Because you need to have good bile function in order to convert the inactive T4 hormone to the active T3 hormone. Okay?
So bile is friggin' important, okay? And if your GGT is high that means your gallbladder is failing and that means you may be on your way to getting gallbladder surgery. Which you don't need to get. The gallbladder is not a throwaway organ. So if you see that GGT above 28, you need to get your bile flowing. I love bitters, Canadian bitters is one that I use personally, if you're in Canada this is what I recommend. If you're in the States I use Dr. Shades Bitters #9 from Quicksilver. Or Urban Moonshine also makes a good one. So any good bitter tincture. You also want to get coline. If you are someone who has non alcoholic fatty liver disease, you should get on coline. You want to do 500 mg of coline three times a day, do this for six weeks, and then retest and see where your liver enzymes are at. And there will be a good chance that they have come down if you've also added into your regime a really good diet and really good sleep, okay?
The other thing that I really love for sluggish gallbladder is something called tudca, it's a really, really special bile acid and it can also help get the bile flowing. You'll also want to consider bile building foods or bile stimulating foods, so your grains are really fantastic ways to stimulate bile. Any bitter foods like dandelion, chicory, ginger will do it, a really high quality cup of coffee in the morning is a good way to stimulate bile. Beet juice. Celery juice. All these things are great bile stimulants. So yeah. Definitely look into those things. Okay.
So let's do a quick recap before I hop off, guys. So the three blood chemistry markers that you definitely want to be looking at if your energy is in the toilet. Number one is the hemoglobin A1C so this is your blood sugar marker that shows you an average of glucose metabolism over three months. And you want that to be below 5.5%. If it's above 5.5%, you're probably on your way to type 2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome. But, luckily, you can turn it around by getting your diet dialed in, looking at your minerals, and looking at any exposure to gut infections.
Number two is reverse T3, this should be a part of any comprehensive thyroid panel. It's an inactive thyroid hormone and your body will push it into that when there is thyroid dysfunction but typically when there are infections and heavy metal toxicity and that will make you tired. And then you always want to be looking at your liver enzymes and gallbladder enzymes, AST and ALT. Those should be below ... AST should be below 20, ALT should be below 25, and your GGT should be below 28. And if those are trending high, that's a sign that you are moving towards non alcoholic fatty liver disease and possible gallbladder surgery, so love your bile. Think about ways to stimulate your bile. Stimulate your liver. Consider doing a good detox strategy. Try to get that stuff moving and get your diet dialed in. Reduce that sugar, reduce those carbohydrates, and make sure to get sleep.
Okay, guys. So I hope that was helpful. Again if you have comments, I'll come back to them after. I'll make sure to add them to the live Q&A that happens the last Tuesday of every month. Typically we do these Facebook Lives on Tuesdays at 4:15 Pacific. This week was a little crazy, but I wanted to make sure that I squeezed it in. And guys, the podcast of this goes out every Thursday so if you don't have time to consume video, like me, you can listen to this as a podcast. It's just the HIGH on Energy podcast, and you can subscribe to that on iTunes, on Spotify, on Google Play, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Alright guys, thank you so much for tuning in. As always, I hope this was helpful and I will talk to you guys soon.
Did you know that Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis or HTMA is one of the most powerful tools you can use to assess your internal bio-chemistry or the bio-chemistry of your clients?
Are you aware that HTMA is the most commonly misinterpreted test - in fact, I have hundreds of people contacting me with test results that were read improperly by their practitioner?
Today, we dive into the beginner basics of understanding HTMA results and how to determine if your practitioner is reading your results properly.
Kendra Perry: Hello, hello there, welcome to High On Energy TV. I am a super, super excited to be here and bring to you some more amazing content on today's episode. So I am your host Kendra Perry. You can find out more about me at kendraperry.net and as always, let's talk about some stuff to help you boost your energy. And so today's episode is going to be just slightly different than what we normally cover on the episode. And the reason for that is because we're going to be talking about something that's maybe a little bit more relevant for practitioners, but I know I have practitioners in my audience. So I just want to talk a little bit about a tool, my favorite tool to use when it comes to improving people's energy. Okay. And I mean, there's a lot of theories out there about testing and what is the best test to send out to your clients if you have people who are struggling with energy.
But my very, very favorite tool in the whole world to use to help not only with energy but pretty much with any symptom that a person might be dealing with is actually a hair mineral analysis kit. Okay. So what a lot of people don't know is this is a very effective and also very affordable way to assess a person's unique biochemistry and physiology. Functional testing is expensive, right? Like if you are going to run like a GI-MAP, if you're going to get into the gut testing, into hormone testing, run something like a DUTCH, I mean, you're going to be spending several hundred dollars and especially with the GI-MAP, that's definitely a pretty high price point. You can literally spend thousands of dollars on testing, but one of the most amazing things ever is that hair mineral analysis is pretty affordable. It is probably the lowest price point for any tasks that I've ever really seen out there.
Obviously depending on where you're getting it from and who you're ordering it from. But I think that's pretty cool because my biggest complaint with functional medicine is that it's not really available to everyone. Right. When something costs thousands of dollars that's kind of a big deal. Sorry, I think my microphone is a little bit further away from me than it should be, I'm a little excited today because I love talking about hair mineral analysis, but yeah, functional medicine is amazing. I think we all need it. I think we need ... We all need to be doing testing just because if you're not testing then you are guessing, right? Everyone's different, I don't know what the heck's going on in your body. Like your the most intelligent, experienced, educated practitioner in the world doesn't know what's going on in your body unless they test.
Otherwise they're making maybe educated guesses or there may be going with their intuition. But honestly, we really do need testing in order to get that legitimate scientific information to give us a course of action and to give us a path to follow because even if you have a really well educated practitioner who maybe has some really good intuition and has an idea of what might be going on in your body, it can be really hard to commit to all the things that they're asking you to commit with if you are not 100% sold on that, that's actually what's going on with you. And especially if you don't also have a way to track that, right? Like we want to be able to follow up and know, okay, what we're doing is actually working. This is the right thing. We're seeing progress in the results or we're not seeing progress.
So what we're doing isn't working and it's not actually what we should be doing and we need to totally change course. So I can sit here on my high horse or on my soap box or whatever for the next while and talk about the importance of testing. But if you guys have been listening to the podcast or tuning in for High On Energy TV, then you know that I'm really into testing. So I really think hair mineral analysis is amazing because it is really cheap, but it gives you an insane amount of information about the body and it correlates more than any test I've ever come across. Okay. And so what I mean by that is I can look at a panel and be like, okay, this is probably what they're experiencing symptom wise and this is probably how their personality is.
So there's a lot of mood connections and personality connections based on the various mineral patterns that we see. So I can look at that and get an idea like, oh, this person is a type A personality. They probably push, push, push. They probably really busy. They probably take on a lot of tasks or I could look at that and be like, wow, this person probably feels pretty depressed. They might even feel a bit apathetic, like a bit disconnected from their emotions or kind of like they're not really feeling much in terms of ... They're kind of like that stone cold statue. Right. And so that's what's really cool about that. You can also get insight into thyroid, into adrenal health into digestion, into blood sugar regulation into hormones, into the nervous system, heavy metal, toxicity, detoxification, chemical sensitivity.
These are just amongst some of the things that we can see. I can see what if you are in the alarm stage of stress or the exhaustion stage of stress. It's crazy, it's a really cool test and I've come to love it. And I also think it is a really good standalone test. Yes, sometimes we do need to test the gut, we want to see if there's infections. We want to balance hormones totally. But if you're like, I don't have a lot of money, what is my best use of my dollars? I will tell you to do a hair mineral analysis every time, regardless of whether you have hormonal issues, gut issues, brain issues, whatever issues you could be having because the mineral system is very important. Minerals are the co-factors in every single enzyme reaction in the body.
And a lot of times they're actually the enzymes themselves. So if your minerals are out of whack or they're out of balance with each other, I mean you're going to end up with all kinds of different symptoms, right? It just kind of depends on you and what your genetic weaknesses are. So like I said this episode today is going to be a little bit more focused on practitioners and health professionals out there who are interested in learning the basics of HMA or hair mineral analysis. Hair mineral analysis is HMA. But if you are kind of a nerdy maybe you're not going to be a health professional and you don't aspire to be one. You can use the information from this episode to get an idea if the person who is reading your hair mineral analysis should be the one reading your hair mineral analysis.
Because unfortunately this test is very misunderstood and very misread and I've literally had hundreds of people contact me. I have people contacting me every week, who are like, "yeah, this is what my practitioner told me to do based on these results." And I'm literally getting goose bumps and I'm cringing because it's not right. And what they are telling that person to implement or to bring in isn't actually going to help fix the issue. And that's really unfortunate because I think it gives this test a bad name, right? Because I think a lot of people don't have a great experience with it because as practitioners it's hard to interpret and as clients we often have it misinterpreted for us. So that leads us to believe it's not accurate or it's not as powerful tool as it really is.
And your practitioner who might be misreading your hair mineral analysis, it's not their fault, don't get mad at them. There is a very massive lack of training out there on hair mineral analysis. It's actually really hard to learn about. When I started to realize its power and I realized that I wanted to bring it into my life and into the lives of my clients. I took every single training out there that existed that I could find. And every single one of those courses was very interesting. It gave some good information. It helped me maybe understand the panel a little better, but every single one of them lacked practical and clinical application. So sure, I understood what I was looking at sort of, but I didn't actually know what to do with the results or how to actually develop protocols that would help fix the situation that we were looking at.
And I was really frustrated by that. And I spent years figuring it out on my own by following various experts and listening to podcasts and going on PubMed and Google Scholar and diving into the research. And I had to hire a certain HMA practitioners that costs me thousands and thousands of dollars. One woman I was working with who is a true expert, she's one of the biggest experts in the field, but I was paying her $600 an hour to get this information from her. So it was really hard and I had to really want it. Okay. And so that's why I'm saying don't blame your practitioner who maybe doesn't know how to read your hair test, because honestly it's not readily available information. And actually that's one of my big missions is to change that. And so I'm actually going to be running a six week live practitioner training on hair mineral analysis this February.
We'll be starting February 21st and this course is going to dive deep into the primary mineral patterns that you see on hair mineral analysis, but it is going to focus heavily on the clinical application and how to actually develop the hair mineral protocols to actually help people get well. So pretty excited to teach this course. I have about 10 or 12 people signed up. It's going to be awesome. I'm going to give you everything I've got and I'm going to make you feel like an expert in HMA. And so if you are a health professional or you're just a pretty nerdy person in general and you think that you can keep up and understand this information I would love if you would join me, just send my business page a message, I'll send you the details. Yeah, I'm going to be getting the info page up shortly.
And so once that info pages up, it will be go.Kendraperry.net/HMA. If you go to it and you get an error message, it's just because I haven't quite finished it yet. I'm jumping on this really quickly. I literally decided to create this course last week when I had a whole handful of practitioners being like, I want to learn this. Will you teach it? Please teach it, create this course. So I was like, okay, I'm going to do it. So yeah, I'm kind of scrambling to get everything together, but that will be happening for anyone who's interested. And guys, if you're on with me live right now say hey, because really all I see is a little eyeball with the number five and I have no idea who you are. So give me, hey, give me a heart, give me a like.
Let me know that you're here so I can say hi to you personally. Okay, so let's jump into it guys. We're going to talk about three simple or sort of like beginner steps to understanding a hair mineral analysis task. So this is very beginner, but you need to know these first before going deeper into this test. Okay? So number one, this is really, really important and this is actually the primary way that practitioners actually misinterpret this test. And that is they read it as it is. And what do I mean by that? Well, they just look at it exactly how it is. So they're like, okay, you're high on this, so you're eating too much of this. Stop eating foods with that in it. Okay, you're low in this. Okay, you need to eat more of this.
That's actually a huge mistake because the hair is an excretion, right? So this is minerals that are being pushed out of the body and we need to interpret, this is where all the big interpretation comes in. Why is it being lost? Is it being lost because your body has too much of it. You're over consuming it. You have too much of it in your life or because your body can't hold onto it because there's something else going on with some other mineral or vitamin that is causing it to be lost and pushed out of the body. Okay. And so listen carefully when I say this, okay. The mineral system is dynamic. Every mineral has an effect on every single other mineral in the body, either directly or indirectly. Okay? So you can't look at one mineral in isolation and just be like, oh, calcium is high.
Stop eating calcium and that'll make your calcium go down. That is the biggest mistake with hair mineral analysis. And that's a big reason why it's misinterpreted, especially when it comes to magnesium. Because high magnesium typically indicates actually a loss of magnesium. And isn't actually high magnesium in the body. So that person more than anything actually desperately needs magnesium like needs magnesium or they need something to make it more bioavailable. But that practitioner might be telling them, oh your magnesium levels are good, so let's start pulling magnesium out of diet because it's actually too high. Okay. So this is what I mean. So you really ... So if you want to get educated on hair mineral analysis, where you should start is actually learning about the various mineral relationships and which minerals are antagonists. So they decrease the absorption of the other and which are synergists so they enhance the absorption of the other.
And you might be wondering, well this sounds like a lot of information Kendra. Like where should I actually got this from? Okay. So want you to Google when you get off the podcast or the episode with me, Google mineral wheel, I'm pretty sure that we'll bring it up, but it's very cool. And let me actually see if I can bring it up right now because it would actually be really cool for me to show this to you. And maybe you would understand a little bit better. okay, that's awesome. Let's pull it up and now let's see here. Okay, I'm actually gonna share my screen guys, just gimme a second.
Okay. Can you see what I'm looking at? Let's see here, primary display, that's not it, that is something totally different. Okay. It's weird though because when I look at it, I just see an empty screen. I don't actually see the window that I have up. So maybe what I'm going to do quickly guys is I'm just going to look in, I'm going to go to my Facebook page and I'm going to see if I can actually do this populating and let me know you should actually see a mineral wheel. So if you're in the audience right now, just let me know. Can you see the mineral wheel that I am looking at because I would love to know. Okay. And so in my Facebook page is actually kind of delayed.
let me know you should actually see a mineral wheel. So if you're in the audience right now, just let me know. Can you see ... Yeah. I don't think you can see it, I don't know why that is like so confusing to me. So maybe what I'll do is I'll bring this down to my lower screen. Jenny's here. Hey Jenny. And I'll actually switch primary display.
Yeah. So I don't think you can see it. I don't know why that is like so ... That's so weird. I've actually never had this, it's like why can't you see my, that's my slack.
You can see everything, but what ... Okay, so that's not actually working. Just mountains. That's so weird. So you're actually not seeing what I'm looking at. I've actually never had that problem before, so I'm going to try to explain this and the best way that I can. Okay, so Google mineral wheel and pull up the images of what you'll see is that you'll see a big wheel, let's see here. I should also turn down myself talking on my phone. And so what you'll actually see is you'll see this big wheel and you'll see all these lines going through the middle. It kind of looks like ... I don't know how to describe it, but anyways, so what you're gonna see is you're going to see a wheel with all the various elements and metals that all surround the mineral wheel.
And you're going to see arrows on the line in between. And the arrows that push towards each other mean that those are, they're synergist and they're antagonists when the arrow just points in one way and not just towards each other, it means that that mineral enhances the mineral. So I don't think I'm explaining this very well. So let's, okay, let me try again. So you'd have this big mineral wheel and there's all the elements around it. And so let's say that you start ... You go to the very bottom, the very bottom you actually see mg, which is magnesium. And if you follow that arrow up, you'll get to calcium. And what you'll notice in the middle of the line that connects magnesium to calcium are arrows that point towards each other. So what that means is that these minerals, calcium magnesium are synergists. So they enhance the absorption of the other, but they are also antagonists.
So they also decrease the absorption of the other. So that means that in a proper levels they are synergists and they enhance each other, but if they get too far apart, they actually push quite strongly against each other. Okay. So hopefully that makes sense. Okay, so I'm going to try to find another example here. So if you go to the left, you'll see Pb. Okay. And then Pb connects to, let's see here. So Pb connects to chromium. Okay. And so PB is lead. Okay. So lead, you'll see the PB, and you'll see the line that goes to chromium and you'll just see one arrow pointing from lead to chromium. So that means that lead is antagonist to chromium which means that lead can push chromium out of the body and reduce its absorption.
So I hope that makes sense. I might be kind of butchering it. I really hope I could have showed this on my screen. It's so weird that I couldn't show that to you, but check out that mineral maybe. And you could probably get an online description of that, maybe a little better than what I can give you when we're not actually looking at it. But what I want you to ... The reason I'm bringing this up is because you need to understand the entire dynamicness. I don't think that's a word, but let's pretend it is of the mineral system. So when you're looking at magnesium and it's high, you can be like, okay, the first thing you want to think, well, is that high because it's high in the body or is it a loss? And you want to look at the other minerals, consider those relationships and make interpretation based on this.
So if you just read it as it is then that's how you're going to misinterpret it. So that's number one. Don't read it as it is when you're looking at each mineral. Consider all the other minerals. And obviously that's very complex way easier said than done. I mean this took me years to learn, but that's okay. And so number two is to focus on the macro minerals. So when you look at a hair mineral analysis, there's a lot of minerals going on. It's really overwhelming. It's really confusing. But what matters are actually the first four minerals, calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium. These are the body's primary electrolytes. They are responsible for running pretty much everything in the body. So when you are thinking about balancing minerals and what you should actually do to help this person or help yourself with those first four minerals, you should be only the implementing things as a new practitioner on those first four.
Because if you can bring those four back in the balance, a lot of the other ones will actually follow. Okay. So focus on the first four or the macro minerals. Don't get stuck down all the other rabbit holes that you can go on with all the like 30 other elements and metals that are on the test. Focus on the first four. That's gonna help bring the body back into balance. And it's going to help with detox of metals as well. Okay. Yeah, so I think Brittany just posted a link. I actually can't see what that link is. I just see it's a gift link, but maybe it's a mineral wheel, I don't know. Okay. So number three, okay is focused on the significant ratios. So sure, we want to look at each of the minerals on their own, get an idea of maybe what's going on.
But really what matters is the balance between minerals. Because if you can remember what I said initially, some minerals are antagonists and some are synergist. So we care about the balance between the minerals. So if the calcium magnesium ratio is really high, that means you have way too much calcium compared to magnesium. So you probably actually need magnesium. Even if magnesium looks normal on its own, you want to actually support that magnesium. The other thing, so there are a bunch of different significant ratios if you're looking, and the only two labs that I recommend guys are ARL and TEI. I don't recommend any other labs out there because they wash their hair samples and that will actually create great variability in the results. So stick to Analytical Research Lab ARL and stick to Trace Elements Incorporated or TEI.
And they will actually give, there's a little section that says significant ratio. So always look at the ratios. Like I said, if calcium is really high above magnesium you probably need magnesium. If sodium is really high above potassium you probably need to potassium. If calcium is really high above phosphorus, you probably need phosphorous. Of course, this is pretty basic. Obviously I don't recommend that you go out and try to interpret your own hair mineral analysis because this is something that took me years and hundreds and hundreds of hours to learn. But this will maybe help you if you are a client working with a practitioner to get an idea if what the protocol that practitioner is giving you is actually a good protocol. because if they're not focusing on the macro minerals, if they're reading it just as they see it, if they're not looking at the significant ratios and trying to balance those out, then that's a red flag.
Okay. So they probably need more training and you probably need to find a different practitioner. Okay. So I'm just going to do a quick summary of what we talked about and then I'm going to go to questions. Okay. So number one, don't just read it as it is. Don't just look at each individual mineral without taking into account the interactions with every other mineral in the body, okay. Especially the macro minerals. Okay. And that brings us to number two, focus on the macro minerals, the first four minerals. These are also called the first level of minerals, calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium. Focus on those. Look at the interactions between those. Try to bring those back into balance and focus your attention on the significant ratios, which is number three. So the balance between those main minerals. So the first level minerals especially, so you're going to be looking at the sodium potassium ratio, the calcium magnesium ratio, the sodium magnesium ratio and the calcium potassium ratio.
So those are the four most important significant ratios. They are going to be listed in the significant ratios. Okay. So I'm going to go to questions now. Hopefully that wasn't too confusing. I'm really disappointed I could not bring up that mineral wheel. So Ellen says, "Hey, sent to question regarding fasting perhaps to tease to get minerals. Does that process work at all, or a bad idea also bad bugs and dark lines with the salted water protocol, never had that in my life. Thoughts?" So Ellen, I think these questions are related to maybe a protocol you're going through in high and energy, in which case you should direct those into the membership program so that I can better take a look at what you're actually asking me because I think it was in regards to something I told you within the membership program.
So definitely make sure to ask those same questions within the membership program and then I can help you better because I can spend a little bit more time focusing on your question. Okay. Awesome guys, thank you so much for joining me today. Remember if you want to go through my clinical training for hair mineral analysis, I'll be running that the 21st of February as a live six part training with live Q and A sessions in between. Is going to be super comprehensive. I'm going to make you feel like an expert in HMA.
So if this at all interests you as a practitioner or maybe just someone who is super nerdy and wants to dive deep into this stuff and doesn't know, you are intimidated hanging out with a group of nerdy practitioners, then definitely send my page a message. Let me know you're interested. I'm going to be confirming all the details by the end of this week, and I'll have the info page up shortly, which will be go.Kendraperry.net/HMA. If you get an error message, it just means I'm not done yet, but my plan is to have it done by Friday. All right guys, thank you so much. Thanks for hanging out with me today and I'll see you guys next Tuesday for the next High On Energy episode. Bye.