Q&A: C diff, Mold & SIBO as a Vegan, and more
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This episode is the monthly Q&A where I answer questions submitted by YOU! I discuss:1. How can I fix SIBO + histamine intolerance as a vegan?
2. How do I address C diff?
3. Could mold be making me sick?
With these I provide some juicy info about my favourite supplements to assist with C diff and toxicity binders. I also touch on vitamin D supplementation, Epstein-barr virus, and parasites.
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Hey everyone, how's it going? Kendra Perry here. Welcome to another episode of the HIGH on Energy Podcast. And this is one of my favorite episodes to do because it is the monthly q&a. So every Tuesday, last Tuesday of the month, every single month, I do a Live q&a on my Facebook page, and if you guys want to ask me questions, if you want to interact with me, if you want to come say hey, you can literally ask me anything. Or if you can't make it, because we do it at 4:00pm Pacific, so we're going to be a little bit late for some people in eastern time zones, you're probably off and eating dinner and doing other things, you can always submit a question in advance by sending it to firstname.lastname@example.org. Or, just sending a message to my Facebook page Kendra Perry Nutrition.
So guys, I hope you've had a really good weekend. I actually celebrated my birthday yesterday, and it's 35. So, feeling a little bit older this year, maybe a little bit wiser, but I had a pretty good weekend, I went biking. Me and Ryan actually went to the Hot Springs and we booked a room. And they have these new rooms, they're super nice, separate from the main hotel. So they're super quiet, had a beautiful view of the lake, and we spent a good hour or more going in and out of the hot pools into the freezing cold pools. We've been really into cold therapy lately.
Last Christmas, not the one that just passed, but the Christmas before that I actually bought The Iceman Course for Ryan, for Christmas. So that's some Wim Hof, right? And so he's the guy who holds the world record for sitting in ice for the longest time because he's able to like regulate his body temperature, and he's also the guy who has climbed Mount Everest in shorts. So Ryan's gotten pretty into it, and actually, this whole winter, Ryan was actually swimming in the lake. And I kind of wanted to get into it with him. And I actually did pretty well in the cold pool. It's freezing cold. I don't actually know exactly how cold it is. But it was cool.
I managed to go in there and sit in there for five full deep breaths. I was pretty proud of myself, because I haven't been practicing like Ryan has. But I think it's pretty cool, and it made me feel really good. I think it's really good for circulation. And I think the trick to it because instantly when you get into cold water, all you want to do is just like start panicking and hyperventilating, because it activates your fight or flight system. Of course, it does. It's freezing cold water like you would go hypothermic in water that cold pretty fast. But of course, when you're using it for health optimization, you know you're not going to freeze to death, you know that you have a way to get warm. And in that case, we had a super Hot Springs right next to us. So you really got to just go into it slowly and deep breathing.
So I would just start with taking really deep breaths, I'd slowly walked down the stairs, I would get into the cold pool. I go all the way up to my neck and just kind of put my head into my prayer sign and just take deep breaths. So very, very cool.
Anyways guys, I've got a bunch of questions that I want to go through today that some of you guys submitted in advance. But if you're on Facebook Live with me today, definitely feel free to ask me any questions at all.
So, the first question is related to Sibo, and I had a bit of a computer crash, right before this happened. So I'm just going to have to pull it up. But I just wanted to say hi to Alicia, she's here. I feel like you're on all my Facebook Lives, Alicia, and I really, really appreciate it. So hello, and anyone else who's here, just let me know, say hi, otherwise, I have no idea that you're here.
So the first question is, is there any treatment for vegan people who have hydrogen Sibo paired with levels of histamine intolerance, any tips or suggestions?
First of all, I'm going to say that that is incredibly tricky situation if you're not eating meat. If you are trying to treat Sibo, ultimately when you get rid of Sibo, you're going to have to go on a low Fat Man's Diet, and if you're pairing that, with histamine intolerance, you can't tolerate high histamine foods when you overlap that, and you're also omitting meat from your diet. You're kind of in trouble, okay.
Honestly, in this situation, I really don't think... and people are going to probably hate me for this, but you're not really doing yourself any favor by being on a vegan diet. Honestly, it's a super restrictive diet. Yes, some people do thrive on it. But I would say that's a small minority of people who just happen to have good genes that support it. I don't think most people are going to thrive on that diet. Most people I see eating this type of diet are not thriving. They're really sick. They do have a lot of bloating and a lot of issues. And if you're going to restrict that diet even more by restricting fat man's and restricting histamine foods, you're going to be basically starving. You're going to get sicker. So I really don't recommend it. That's going to be really harsh on your system.
So my advice would be to eat a paleo esque diet while you're getting rid of Sibo. Eliminating the histamine foods as much as possible. And then once you eliminate the Sibo as determined by testing, you are going to then add in the Fahd maps diet for about three months. Once you get rid of the Sibo, see how you feel, try experimenting, if you're really committed to that type of diet, you can experiment with it again at that point, but if you try to do those two diets together, and being a vegan, I think you're going to make yourself really sick. I think that's the honest truth.
Ellen's on. Hello, Ellen. She says hi, Kendra. Can you remind me your opinion regarding vitamin D -29?
This is a really good question. So vitamin D is very much a result, and a symptom of a whole bunch of other things that happen for a long time prior to ending up with vitamin D. And taking vitamin D doesn't fix the issue because you're not dealing with all the upstream effects, and the fact that there's a good chance that your body is reducing vitamin D on purpose.
So when the body starts to get unbalanced when it's been subject to a lot of toxins, or metals, or chronic stress, all the things that wear on our body overtime and eventually make us sick. The first thing that happens is you get potassium loss. So potassium is the first mineral typically to get lost, also why it's probably one of the hardest minerals to raise because usually, once you realize you need to raise it, it's been deficient and depleted for a very long time. So first, potassium goes.
The second thing to go is magnesium. Once magnesium goes, you're going to end up with low boron. Once you lose potassium, magnesium and boron, you end up with soft tissue calcification, so the so now calcium no longer has its posse or its co-factors to keep it in the bone, which is where you want calcium to belong, in the bone 99%. It needs to be in the bone. If calcium is existing any more than 99% outside of the bone, you're going to have issues. You're going to have what's called soft tissue calcification, which is when calcium starts building up outside the bone into the soft tissue. So basically, you end up with soft tissue calcification, and your body actually lowers vitamin D on purpose, to try to stop it. Because soft tissue calcification is the body slowing down, it's the body's braking system. It prevents mobility, it affects cellular permeability. So it's really hard to get things in and out of the cells that affects emotions. It affects the thyroid, you do not want soft tissue calcification, and generally that is why your body is actually lowering vitamin D to stop the soft tissue calcification.
Now taking vitamin D isn't the solution, right? Because you can see that it's a result of something that's been going on for a long time; potassium loss, magnesium loss, boron loss, and then the calcium going up and then eventually lithium. Lithium is the last mineral to lost. And then you end up with the lowering of vitamin D as kind of a coping mechanism or balancing mechanism to try to stop the soft tissue calcification that is now happening because calcium doesn't have what it needs to stay in the bone.
So that's my opinion regarding vitamin D, I don't recommend it. I want to see the whole mineral profile, I want to see a hair mineral analysis, which you can run in my group membership program HIGH on Energy, and I can help you with that. Because... And Ellen, I can't remember if you've run one or not, you may need to remind one, but if you haven't, you definitely want to. Because if your vitamin D is that low, that's a sign that there is a cascading of things that have been going on for quite some time. And just taking vitamin D is not going to make the situation worse.
Melissa asks, thoughts on Epstein-Barr? I do have some thoughts on Epstein-Barr. Surprise, surprise, I have opinions. So basically, Epstein-Barr is not the root cause, and I know practitioners like Medical Medium have made you think that Epstein-Barr is the cause of all chronic health issues. A lot of people have Epstein-Barr. If you've ever had Mono as a teenager, that's the kissing disease because teenagers are gross, and they lick and kiss each other's mouths and share cigarettes, and do all that nasty shit. Basically, if you've ever had Mono, you have Epstein-Barr. Mono is just a manifestation of Epstein-Barr.
Now, if you're healthy, and you have strong immune system, and you don't have all these other stressors going on, then your immune system will actually keep Epstein-Barr in check, and it won't actually be an issue at all. It'll just exist inactive in your tissue, and that's totally cool. If you have activated Epstein-Barr, if it's come out of hiding, it means something is up with your immune system.
So there are mineral issues, there are heavy metals, there's probably glyphosate chemicals, you probably have other infections, you probably have parasites. Parasites are incredibly taxing on the immune system. I found they have the biggest effect on the immune system. So, Epstein-Barr is not really the issue, it's the fact that your immune system is no longer strong enough to keep it in hiding and to keep it inactive. So that is my thoughts on Epstein-Barr. If you've got it, you got to address the immune system, you need to see what's going on with your minerals. You need to do a bunch of testing to figure out why the Epstein-Barr is an issue because it really shouldn't be an issue if everything is working as it should.
Hope that answers your question, Melissa and welcome. Thank you for being here. After I dumped all that information in your face, right? All right.
So another submitted question was, I watched your video on C difficile infection without antibiotics. I'm wondering if I could have a bit more information on what exactly to take, and I'm from Canada, if that makes a difference on what will be available to me?
So, I would say like if you have C diff, the most important thing is to figure out why you ended up getting it. Because it's... C diff is around us all the time, but again, we should have strong defenses, we should have an immune system that works, stomach acid, all these things that prevent us from getting infected.
Now, with C diff, I really don't recommend, obviously, I'm not a doctor, that's my sort of medical disclaimer, I don't pretend to be one. But anyway, antibiotics don't really work for C diff, and antibiotics are often the cause of C diff.
And I think the other thing we need to keep in mind with infections is that the infections aren't often the driving factors of what's making us sick. Oftentimes, they are just a sort of a presentation or, a reflection of the bigger landscape of what's going on in the gut. So you need to address gut health, you need to address the mucosal layer of the gut. So you need to be taking things that help rebuild the gut lining, you need to be taking digestive support, you need to be addressing other infections and there are other infections on the GI-MAP that you might want to address first before addressing C diff.
You need to be taking a biofilm disruptor, that's really important. And the best protocol for C diff, and I tell it to you right now, this is some juicy information, it is Saccharomyces Boulardii. So that beneficial strain of yeast is very good at crowding out C diff, and oftentimes I see this work after one round. Like 90% of the time, it works after one round. So you need to do a high dose of Saccharomyces Boulardii, you want each capsule to have 5 million organisms in it. And you start with two weeks on four capsules, three times a day. For the next two weeks, you go to three capsules, two or three times a day. And for the final four weeks you do two capsules, three times a day. So it's over 400 capsules that you're taking. It's not cheap, but it works, works really well.
But like I said, you're not going to be successful in getting rid of it or preventing it from coming back unless you're addressing that entire gut landscape of what's going on, in entirety in the gut, and addressing the other infections because if you have C diff I'll be putting money on that you have other infections as well.
Melissa says, "Parasites? I'm about Texas, exposed to a lot of things. Yeah, parasites are really common. There's a lot of different parasites that you can get. I see it all the time, you don't need to travel or go to a foreign country to get parasites. You can get them anywhere. People are always traveling internationally these days. People pass these things to each other. And if you're handling pets, then you're probably getting exposed to tick borne illness, [Bartonella henselae 00:13:32], that sort of thing. It's, like 50% of household pets carry a lot of these parasites and bacterial infections. So those things will need to be addressed as well. Because if you're handling a lot of pets, you're definitely getting exposed to all kinds of things. So it's really, really extra important for you, Melissa to really boost your immune system. Get the body functioning properly, so you can fight off a lot of those things you're actually getting exposed to.
Guys, let me know... These are really good questions. I love them. So let me know if you guys have any other questions. And then Melissa says, "I see a clinical nutritionist in my area, labs with saliva testing on compounded hormones, compounded thyroid."
So what you want is the GI-MAP. It's going to be the best test for assessing parasitic infections, and it's really the Rolls Royce or I guess the Cadillac. I don't know anything about cars, tell me, is a Rolls Royce better than a Cadillac? Or is a Cadillac better than a Rolls Royce? I'd love to know. But it's kind of like the best test you can get for GI infections. It'll tell you pretty much all of them, but it won't tell you about like Bartonella henselae, all the lime co-infections. It won't tell you those things. But definitely you want to do hair metal analysis testing, metal testing, GI-MAP. Those are my flagship tests. I only do hormone testing, in the case of really severe hormonal imbalances because honestly guys, if you just do a hormone test and try to treat hormones as supplements, you probably won't get any results at all, and you'll be wasting your money. Hormones are superficial, you got to dig deeper. You got to like figure out why the hormones are out of whack.
This is a good one. I started getting sick when I moved into a new place. I started getting chronic congestion, tingling in my arms, and insomnia. The other day, I found black mold in the bathroom behind the toilet and throughout the basement. Could this be making me sick? How do I know? How do I recover?
So apparently, I learned this the other day, over 50% of homes in North America are mold infested. They have black mold. So a lot of us are getting exposed to mold. Absolutely. Whether it actually is an issue, whether it actually makes you sick has to do with the landscape, right? Like how many other things are affecting your health. Now, if you're a really healthy, robust person, strong immune system, like good mineral balance, not getting exposed to a lot of toxins, detoxing regularly, eating a healthy diet, sleeping like a boss, you're probably may not actually be affected by that mold. But if you're someone who has other infections, you're eating a shitty diet, not sleeping very well, you've got lots of metal toxicity, lots of chemical toxicity, well, yeah, that mold is going to be another layer of stress.
So, unfortunately, you can't really help if you do have more toxicity, if you are getting mycotoxins illness from being exposed to mold, you will not be able to get healthy while still living in that house. That's really unfortunate. It's the honest truth, and it's probably not what you want to hear, and it's probably not the most economical thing for me to tell you, but that is the honest truth. If you have mold illness, and you're getting exposed to mold, you have to get out of that house, you have to move. It could potentially be remediated, but you shouldn't be the one to do it. That should be done by an expert. And a lot of times the issue is quite systemic, and it's really hard to get it out.
So, you will need to probably move. Hopefully this isn't a place that you just bought, hopefully this is a place you're renting, you can definitely take this up with your landlords. I have a member in my group who took her landlord support over having extreme mold in her house, it was all through her pipes and her drinking water, it was pretty bad. But once you get out of the mold infested environment, what you need to do is you need to bind it. That's the most important thing, is you need to just find bind bind bind bind.
My current favorite supplement for binding is from Microbe Formulas, it's called Bio Tox, really, really good for binding up organisms and mold and microbes. I see really good results with that. You can also work with clays, like bentonite clay and charcoal, but it does bind to everything, it takes the good with the bad, so you need to cycle it on and off. I wouldn't have anyone taking charcoal for more than three days in a row and then taking two weeks off, just because it will pull minerals out of your body. But I love the Bio Tox because it doesn't actually do that. So that's a really good strategy.
Now, how do you know if this is an issue? So a really good screening test. Now this isn't a mold test, this is a screening test for mycotoxins. Mycotoxins can be from other things beyond mold that can be from Lyme disease and other things. But it's called the VCs test. It's a $15 test. If you just Google VCs mold toxicity, it'll be one of the first search results that come up. And it's, like I said, it's like $15, and you're basically assessing contrast, your ability to differentiate varying levels of contrast. Contrast is just... I learned this the other day because I'm learning about photo editing. But it's basically like, if you looked at something that was black and white, that would have really high contrast. Because the black... they're like opposites, black and white are opposites, versus if it was like a light green with light brown, that would be less contrast, because they're more similar, the colors are more similar.
Hope that makes sense. But basically it that's what the test assess is for, and it's a screening tool. My advice would be, when you do it, you need to be... I believe it's 18 inches from the screen, and of course when you can't see something properly when the contrast is a bit fuzzy, your tendency is to sort of lean in, but you don't want to lean in, that can make the test totally invalid. So my advice would be to take a measuring tape or ruler, and make sure you're always at 19 or 18 inches, whatever it is from the screen, and be very aware of not allowing yourself to lean in, to try to see the contrast.
All right. Ellen says Rolls Royce is high end. Good to know. Okay.
Awesome. Okay, guys. I hope that helps. And then the last question that was submitted and guys, all you guys who are hanging out with me on Facebook Live, throw your questions in, into the comments because it's a little bit delayed from when I see the comment, and you submit it, so I just want to make sure I get it and I answer your question before I log off today. But the other question is, how to know how high above range your yeast is.
So in my son's case, he was at Candida SPP, he was just being subspecies. So she's referring to the GI-MAP test. He was at 9.82 x 10 to the power of 10, and albicans was 1.01 x 10 to the power three. I was told by one interpreter that these numbers equal at least 20 times higher than the upper limit, and albicans two times higher than the upper limit. Well, another interpreter told me it was 100 times the upper limit. Can you tell me which is accurate? I actually don't know, but it doesn't matter, because both ways it's there, its present.
Anything on the GI-MAP that is in fact a pathogen, you want it to be below detectable levels. So you want it to have that little like sideways triangle thing with dl, which means below detectable level. So even if it's not getting flagged high by the lab, you still want to address it, it still needs to be addressed because it means it's present. It's an overgrowth. So it is an issue. So I don't know what's correct, 20 or hundred times, it doesn't really matter, the point is, your son, he needs a Candida protocol. He needs an anti yeast protocol, and you need to follow up with pre testing and you want to get it down to below detectable level.
All right, guys, let me know if you have other questions. The final question, which I've kind of already discussed this, but I just want to make sure it gets addressed. The final question was, is it okay to take activated charcoal every day? And if you can remember what I said earlier I said no, because it pulls everything. It takes the good with the bad. It pulls the minerals, and we don't want to take things that pull minerals because most of us are mineral deficient. So you need to cycle activated charcoal on and off. Three days on, you can take it two to three grams, two to three times a day on an empty stomach. Do make sure you take it away from medication because it binds to everything including your meds. So if you're taking a thyroid med, you want to make sure that you're not binding it up, and then take two weeks off, so three days on, two weeks off, that's how you should utilize activated charcoal.
Ellen says, "I don't really believe in taking silver, but it's part of my desbio lime treatment. I'm on day 34 of 60, what follow would you expect?
So if it's good... I learned this from a herbalist not that long ago, that if it's good, like colonial silver, and it's made properly, it doesn't actually get absorbed into the body. Now, with silver from what I've learned is that yeah, it's not a good long term strategy. From a short term perspective, so I'd say 60 days falls into that short term window, you're probably fine. Would I take it for a year straight? No. Would I take it for 120 days? Probably not. But I think 60 days technically falls into that short term window. So I think you're fine. And if it's good silver, and it's made properly, then it shouldn't actually affect the other minerals.
Bentonite clay, Ellen, is the exact same as activated charcoal, it binds to all the good and all the bad, so it will bind to minerals. So again, I would cycle it in the exact same way. Binders that don't do that; so Pectin LC, this is the binder that I talk about a lot. It is modified citrus pectin, lots of good research behind it. It's modified in such a way so that it binds to the crap, the metals, the toxins, the chemicals, but it will not actually bind to the minerals. And I like ecoNugenics or Clinical Synergy. Only two brands that I recommend because we know that they have actually modified it properly.
That's really good. Also the Microbe Formulas. I've been using their products more. They have the Bio Tox, which is good for microbes and lime. They have the MetChem, which is good for metals, and then they had the foundation which is just kind of an overall binder. Now those, from what they've told me, do not bind to mineral. So I actually work with those as well, and I'm working with them more and more because I really like those products. All right, guys.
Okay, so thank you so much. I hope this was helpful. Remember that I do this the last Tuesday of every month. So if you've got questions for me, you can either hop on Facebook Live with me, the last Tuesday of May at 4:00pm Pacific, or you can always submit your questions in advance by emailing my assistant, jennifer@email@example.com. Or you can always send a Facebook message to my Facebook page, Kendra Perry Nutrition, and we'll make sure that gets added to the list for next month's q&a.
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Alright guys, have a good day. Take care.